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Post subject: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:56 pm
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Not the issue of cutting out, but another one which some have mentioned before in one form or another. This one manifests as the amp becoming very tinny/bright as tho the mids just all disappeared. The gain also gets this slight dirty compression like a bad distortion under the note which is very subtle. The tinny/bright part of the issue however is not subtle at all. I've been loving the tones i have been getting for months now after hard wiring a few of the multipin connectors in the amp. Definately fixed the footswitch freezing issue and tone seems to be better then ever till this happened. This has happened before tho many times and it would eventually right itself in time. This time it didn't even after many restarts and recreating my main patch in another slots and trying all sorts of things.

Today I started to get to the point i was again thinking of ditching it because i'm just tired of all the issues, and this one is a killer because i could never tolerate this if it happened playing out somewhere. Then i had the idea to restore it. I did a forced update which leaves your patches intact but forced the amp to overwrite the firmware even tho it's up to date. I did that and it was like a different amp. Nite and day. So definitive proof that the amp's firmware is not stable. This really bothers me because if i play out with it and it goes corrupt at the event i'm $hit out of luck. Anyways, i don't think this is a fix for the cutting out issue because others tried it unsuccessfully. But it sure worked for this issue. At least temporarily. Who knows when i t will $hit the bed again. But if you have any other issues like the one i described try doing the forced update. You just hold down the data wheel button and the middle layer button while turning the amp on.
Man, this amp just never ceases to amaze me with the endless issues....


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:02 pm
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Perhaps not exactly related to your experience...BUT...i'm also frustrated...best sounding overall amp I've ever had..."overall" as in all things considered...so 90% as good as any specific amp plus another 100 "amp" sounds just as good....which is why I haven't ditched it yet...cuz it does have the worst software ever in terms of stability...all other issues aside...it just doesn't retain its settings...example: so i save a patch that I've created "meticulously"....go back to it the next day...and it just doesn't sound the same...even though the parameters indicate the correct values "visually"...strange...don't want to continue rehashing my old rant so i'll stop now...but yeah...


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:39 pm
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Have you tried a forced update? I don't know that your issue is the same as mine, but the sound DOES change radically at times and stays that way for days or weeks and this brought it back to normal. The good news by the way is that you do NOT need to even be connected to wifi to do a forced update. I had mine set to off but it works because it apparently saves a copy of the last FW you loaded from fender and uses that to load from if the "working" copy goes corrupt. Much like windows restore where it has a copy of the last properly working software and draws from that to fix your PC if things go bad. The great thing about that is it means if you go to play a gig or whatever and the amp decides to sound wonky you can do a forced update anywhere. If you try and do a regular update with wifi set to off it will tell you it cannot connect. But with a forced update it finishes and says update complete. So this is great news because it could not only save a gig but if fender discontinues the amp and eventually closes down the firmware server your amp would be useless if not for this. But if it c=goes corrupt you can always fix it w/o fenders server. If u haven't tried yet do a forced update. It doesn't erase your presets so you have nothing to lose. Just hold down the data wheel button and the middle layer button which turning on the amp.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:46 pm
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Sorry but on account of my current state of (non) sobriety, could u plz fill me in - again - on the forced update....cuz I thought I had done it already...so I'm not sure if this is something different that you're talking about...i remember reading about it here or on Fender's own literature...this "changing sound" thing is driving me crazy...cuz I do need to play live...and sometimes u don't notice your sound being different thru the monitors....gotta concentrate on other aspects of our performance...pre-emptive tnx


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:28 pm
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Read the last sentence of my last post.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:40 pm
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oczad wrote:
Man, this amp just never ceases to amaze me with the endless issues....



You certainly seem to have issues with it. Keep in mind that MANY of us are using ours with no problems.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:25 pm
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"Many"? What is many? I dunno bout u, but i have yet to see any amp with so many owners complaining about the same issues as this one. If there are 50,000 owners with perfectly functioning GTs but a million with what i have, how is that many? Unless you have done research into the real numbers u r just one person with thier personal experience. Just read this forum if you think you are in the majority. Probably the vast majority here are citing the same maybe 10 issues i have/had.

The old Mustang line....the fizz issue, fixed quickly, period. It was otherwise solid. I could make a list of issues that my GT has which by the way NONE of which is exclusive to my amp and would be an impressively long list. Every one of them i have seen numerous owners not just here but at many forums citing the same issues i have. EVERY one. Please don't try and minimize this amp's many issues publicly and wrongly because when you do you just help to enable fender and other manufacturers to put less effort into making sure this doesn't happen again. Good 4 u if u are blessed with a fully working one, but next time u may just be in my shoes. Think about it.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:04 pm
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You forget that people often only post here if they have problem. You never hear about the countless majority who don't have a problem and don't come near this forum.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:37 pm
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That means nothing because there are a ton of forums both manufacturer and otherwise where i literally have never seen this amount of problems with a single piece of gear. If you want to go on believing that whatever YOU experience is the norm be my guest. I am on my THIRD GT100 ALL of which were plagued. 1st i took back to the store for several issues, second one sent back to fender who then sent me a third. Go on fooling yourself, these issues are plastered all over the web. I'm not sure how you're gonna come up with a reason why 3 of them i had all had issues and many of them, but this i gotta see. Take your blinders off and enter reality....


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:04 pm
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ive definitely had issues where my presets seemingly change their tone. i back up my amp pretty religiously, because ive found that if the phone app hangs, it kinda corrupts the preset.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:05 pm
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I must have a unicorn too. I have had no issues with mine at all since that first update. Same amp I originally purchased too.


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:40 pm
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chamber9verse32 wrote:
ive definitely had issues where my presets seemingly change their tone. i back up my amp pretty religiously, because ive found that if the phone app hangs, it kinda corrupts the preset.


Ditto many times over...


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Post subject: Re: A new observation about an issue
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:51 pm
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chamber9verse32 wrote:
ive definitely had issues where my presets seemingly change their tone. i back up my amp pretty religiously, because ive found that if the phone app hangs, it kinda corrupts the preset.


One cause of issues is if you swap to another app on your phone while the Fender app is actually communicating still, you can lose the connection, even hang the app. Because I swap between my lead-sheet/music program, and the Fender app, I just have to wait that second or two longer before flipping back.


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