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Post subject: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:01 pm
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....theres one thing left that i think fender really should consider. That would be the effects switching settings. It doesn't allow you to make whichever effects u use switchable and leave those you have on all the time NOT switchable. As an example, the patch i use 98% of the time leaves me with no way to witch the chorus on or off and button #2 is an effect that must be on always to achieve this patch's sound. So i am left with only 2 switchable effects and no way to use the chorus unless i switch it at the am by hand. And i have to put a metal tube over the middle button to be sure i never hit it because it would be an embarrassment live. I have looked long and hard at my options and theres no way to achieve what i need, which is nothing more then simply being about to switch 3 things i need to be switchable.

Now i know nothing about firmware development so maybe it's not possible. But i suspect it would be very easy to simply add a 1/2/3 setting to all effects so that when you have an effect u want switchable you just go into it's settings and say u want it to be switched on or off via button 1, you just select 1. Then other effects you wish to assign would show 1 greyed out and you could choose 2 or 3. Etc etc. Total 100% efficiency in being about to customize your effects switching any way you need. Fr myself, that would literally be the last and final thing this am needs to make it fully tweakable to any need. No to mention it would also fix the problem of the current global settings in that it would no be the same for every atch like it is now. How u supposed to have a bunch of different patches with different effects and orders and use the same global setting? just a suggestion fender, but i think it's obvious that this would be a far far better solution. I can't see even one disadvantage but i see many advantages, serious ones.


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:08 pm
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....theres one thing left that i think fender really should consider. That would be the effects switching settings. It doesn't allow you to make whichever effects u use switchable and leave those you have on all the time NOT switchable. As an example, the patch i use 98% of the time leaves me with no way to witch the chorus on or off and button #2 is an effect that must be on always to achieve this patch's sound. So i am left with only 2 switchable effects and no way to use the chorus unless i switch it at the am by hand. And i have to put a metal tube over the middle button to be sure i never hit it because it would be an embarrassment live. I have looked long and hard at my options and theres no way to achieve what i need, which is nothing more then simply being about to switch 3 things i need to be switchable.

Now i know nothing about firmware development so maybe it's not possible. But i suspect it would be very easy to simply add a 1/2/3 setting to all effects so that when you have an effect u want switchable you just go into it's settings and say u want it to be switched on or off via button 1, you just select 1. Then other effects you wish to assign would show 1 greyed out and you could choose 2 or 3. Etc etc. Total 100% efficiency in being about to customize your effects switching any way you need. Fr myself, that would literally be the last and final thing this am needs to make it fully tweakable to any need. No to mention it would also fix the problem of the current global settings in that it would no be the same for every atch like it is now. How u supposed to have a bunch of different patches with different effects and orders and use the same global setting? just a suggestion fender, but i think it's obvious that this would be a far far better solution. I can't see even one disadvantage but i see many advantages, serious ones.


That's a great idea, and while they are at it they should implement MIDI so you can grab a foot controller and assign the effect on/off to the controller buttons.

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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:36 am
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ajb1965 wrote:
while they are at it they should implement MIDI so you can grab a foot controller and assign the effect on/off to the controller buttons.

that has been said over and over. At one point FenderTSL asked for a picture of what I was talking about. And then .... nothing. That was 2 versions ago.

My guess?

If they make it MIDI compatible, you can buy your pedal anywhere.
If they make it proprietary, you can buy your pedal from Fender Corporation and ONLY Fender Corporation

They are in the business of making money (not music).

Here they are responding to the query 6 years ago: Link


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:31 pm
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I can understand the midi thing. As GOS said they want your footswitch money, but also because it would no doubt be more work than the idea i put fourth which as i see it would have not only been simple, but MORE simple than what they actually did.

I had some patches that were my fav sounding patches to date but i had to $hit-can them because due to the effects order i could not have certain effects footswitchable. So all because of this simple thing i had to settle for a lesser sound. It;s just so stupid. Fender fixed a lot of stupid things on the amp since it's debut, but this and the screwey settings acceleration are 2 important things they just left half $@!. I swear this amp could so easily be the best modeling combo out there with a few things that i see as obvious and non subjective for the most part.


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:32 am
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I'll paste in the standard Fender response so they don't have to waste the time answering and can get back to "Fender Mustang Longhorn".

Hi All,

These are all great suggestions. Although we can not make any promises, we will be happy to forward your feedback to the proper channels. Please let us know if we can assist further.

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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:59 am
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"Longhorn" ? I assume u know abut this? Is a new mustang line in process?


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:50 am
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Nah that was a joke. Microsoft referred to one of their OS releases as "Longhorn" and created a huge buzz around it. I think it ended up being Windows Vista by the time it was released. But I do think they are working on the next modeling amp line as we speak. Any suggestions for the current line of amps will only be considered for the next iteration. Or at least that has been the pattern so far.


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:23 am
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Well, if they are i hope they take whatever time they need to get it right this time. Whatever it turns out to be, this time i won't be picking one up the day it arrives in the showrooms. There will be a long wait till i see if the reviews are any good. And if it has another semi FR type speaker instead of a proper guitar speaker i''ll avoid it altogether. Not because i mind buying a speaker for it but that will tell me they have likely compromised the guitar tone in firmware to make for better sounding music streaming lie they did on the GT. As i have said all along, when i buy a guitar amp i don't expect an entertainment system. They should save that stuff for practice amps like the GT40, not stageworthy amps. My hope if if they are working on a new like they are doing it with that in mind.


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:04 am
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that makes a whole lot of sense. The 40 might keep up with a rehearsal where live tone isn't crucial. As soon as you make the jump to the 100, the hardware should be optimized for live performance first and home practice second. I thought that was the point since v1.


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Post subject: Re: GT updates have been good to great, but....
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:22 am
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It's stupid to design a bunch of slightly differing
circuitboard amps to cover several price ranges. Instead,
1. Make one full-featured board that offers mono and a
switchable jack for either stereo, or extra cab for louder mono
output, and with a proper effects send/return
2. Release that board in a rack/amp-head version without a speaker
3. Release that board in a floor pedal version without a speaker
4. Release that board in a regular amp case with 2X12 speakers.

5. Release a range of external cabs to meet the
above use cases and then to cover a range of prices,
as previously represented by
Mustang Floor, I, II, III, IV, and V models

6. Make sure the one and only circuit board can be purchased
and replaced by the owner, just like we do with
computer motherboards.

7. Provide computer based editing software

8. Find someone with a spine and a sense of humor,
to be part of this forum

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