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Post subject: Maybe it's just me, but...
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:37 pm
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I find the bright switch on my fav model, the bassbreaker, to have a ton of potential that is lost by making it a switch. If like with the bassman model the bright was adjustable from 0-10 this model would have incredible potential because the sound the bright switch generates totally changes the character of this model to a sound that is very hard to get from most amps yet is a key sound in a lot of classic rock. I love it, but the problem is what the thing is mimicking is a treble bleed on the gain knob (albeit a very different and cool sounding one) like many amps have, but the problem is the higher you turn the gain the less you hear it and the lower the gain the more you hear it. It becomes unbearable with real low gain settings and i am therefore forced to use more gain than i would like. And considering it has that very beatles/petty kind of voxy thing going on, it is really geared towards lower gain tones. But u cant use it that way because as i said it gets overbearing.

I really think this model would be capable of a lot more if the bright were a setting rather than a switch. I still use it a bit but not near as much as i would if it were adjustable. I can see some awesome possibilities for copping some really great classic rock tones along the lines of the artists i mentioned earlier. I tried the medium gain BB but there are issues trying to do it that way too.


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Post subject: Re: Maybe it's just me, but...
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:37 am
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I guess Fender are trying to imitate the controls of the various amps as well as their sounds. The actual bassbreaker amp has a bright switch, and the bassman has a knob to control brightness, so the modelled versions get those too.

Although this isn't always true. The 57 champ in real life has a single knob (volume) and no other controls, I believe, whereas the modelled version gets separate volume, gain, and eq controls. I guess because the Mustang has those as actual knobs, they want them to function for all amp models.

I suppose it might be useful if Fender added some "fantasy" amp models, with a bit more versatility, rather then trying to imitate actual amps. I'm more concerned with how things sound than trying to mimic the sound of a specific amp.

Out of interest, what bassbreaker amp model do you use? I use the low for clean and with an "orange box", and the mid for a blues crunch with a "greenbox" used as a boost pedal to get a more rock sound. However, I found I had to use the Friedman (4x12 FRD) cabinet for both of these to get an acceptable sound. (The BB Low sounds nice clean, but not so nice, to me, with the "orangebox", or any other kind of distortion pedal, unless I change the cab.)


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Post subject: Re: Maybe it's just me, but...
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:32 am
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Maybe you could put the step filter
after the amp to tame things the way you need?
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Post subject: Re: Maybe it's just me, but...
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:13 pm
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No because it's not about taming the extra high end. The high end the BS adds changes the tone of the high gain BB model radically. So while you could indeed tame the amount of to end that way, it won;t change the degree of character change. If it were just a high boost i wouldn't even need it, i could just use one of the EQ's for that.


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