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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:32 pm
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...."ST+delay" and "mod+filter" in the last 2 FX footswitch algorithms do? Even with all these new algorithms i still cannot use the FX footswitching. I don't see why fender didn't just give you the option of assigning buttons 1, 2 and 3 to anything want. The only thing I really need is one of them to be EQ but thats not included so i can't turn EQ on and of with the FS. I mean, it CAN be turned on/off if i use the default 1,2 and 3 algo thats always been there, but then if a patch has a stomp and another one doesn't for example, the button that turns the EQ on and off will be a different button for each patch depending on whether theres a stomp. It would be a mess to try and remember in the middle of songs which button is going to be the EQ. I have no idea what the algos i mentioned above do so thats why i'm asking. Maybe theres something there i can use to get what i need. Not likely but worth a shot. Theres nothing in the new V2 manual i can find that says what those are.


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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:59 am
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'mod+filter' toggles any effects in the modulation or filter catagories. For example, if you had either a chorus (modulation) or wah (now in the filter catagory, used to be in stompbox before v2) effect, then they will be toggled with FX2 button. The only catch is, if you have a chorus AND a wah effect, they will both be toggled with FX2, which you probably don't want.

I was using this setting (stomp, mod+filter, delay) until I got the expression pedal, then I switched to 'stomp, modulation, delay' and I tend to use the expression pedal for any filters. Even if you don't want to use the pedal part of the exp pedal, you can use its switch to toggle ANY effect you want to assign to it (something you can't yet do with the footswitch).

I've not used 'ST+delay' but I'd assume that it works like above but with stompbox and delay effects (but on FX1, I think).

You can see what effects are in what catagories by adding an effect. With v2 they added more effects catagories and moved a few things around, but unfortunately there isn't a fully updated manual that sets everything out clearly (just an addendum).

Unfortunately EQ is in the Dynamics+EQ catagory, which doesn't seem to be listed in the footswitch settings. (I'm pretty sure you could assign EQ to the expression pedal switch, if you have one - but I wouldn't regard the exp pedal as reliable enough to use live, though its good enough to practice with at home.)

HTH.


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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:34 am
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FWIW, I think Fender should do something like this to get the footswitch configuration working properly:

Keep the current global footswitch settings (maybe add a few more options) and add a new "footswitch" setting to every effect, with the following values:

* Default/Global - Use the schema from the global foot switch settings, e.g. 'stomp, modulation, delay'. This is the default setting when you add a new effect, or for any effect in any old preset where you haven't overridden the footswitch setting.

* Off - This effect cannot be switched on/off with the footswitch.

* 1/2/3 - Effect is toggled by FX1/FX2/FX3

Bonus points to Fender for also adding the values:

* !1/!2/!3 - Like the above setting but switches an effect off when the switch is on (red light on) and on when switch is off (red light off).

This could be used with the previous setting to allow one FX button to toggle two effects. E.g. add an overdrive pedal and a fuzz, set one to 1 and the other to !1, and then FX1 will toggle between the two effects.

Double bonus points if Fender add:

* 4/!4 - Switch 4 being the expression pedal.

Somthing like I suggest above would provide a very powerful/flexible way to configure the footswitch. You can have as many effects as you want on a single switch, you can create toggles as I suggested above, you can assign any effect to any switch, or lock it out so it can't be switched, and old presets will continue to work as they have always done.


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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:00 am
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I see. Not something that helps, oh well. I guess they can't make everyone happy. I'll just pass on using the stomps and just use the patches i like that don't need them.

scoopy wrote:
'mod+filter' toggles any effects in the modulation or filter catagories. For example, if you had either a chorus (modulation) or wah (now in the filter catagory, used to be in stompbox before v2) effect, then they will be toggled with FX2 button. The only catch is, if you have a chorus AND a wah effect, they will both be toggled with FX2, which you probably don't want.

I was using this setting (stomp, mod+filter, delay) until I got the expression pedal, then I switched to 'stomp, modulation, delay' and I tend to use the expression pedal for any filters. Even if you don't want to use the pedal part of the exp pedal, you can use its switch to toggle ANY effect you want to assign to it (something you can't yet do with the footswitch).

I've not used 'ST+delay' but I'd assume that it works like above but with stompbox and delay effects (but on FX1, I think).

You can see what effects are in what catagories by adding an effect. With v2 they added more effects catagories and moved a few things around, but unfortunately there isn't a fully updated manual that sets everything out clearly (just an addendum).

Unfortunately EQ is in the Dynamics+EQ catagory, which doesn't seem to be listed in the footswitch settings. (I'm pretty sure you could assign EQ to the expression pedal switch, if you have one - but I wouldn't regard the exp pedal as reliable enough to use live, though its good enough to practice with at home.)

HTH.


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Post subject: Re: what does...
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:10 pm
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I fully agree with you others : given that, by the way , I'm going to buy a Gt100 in 1/2 months, I want to ask to Fender the maximum flexibility in assigning the effects to the switches and for this I mean many more combinations (possibly every effect assignable to every switch ) than those currently available but also can be useful in certain cases to assign more than one effect on / off to a single switch as you were suggesting, Scoopy.


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