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Post subject: More Software Issues...
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:29 am
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Noticing more bugs with the software.

This time with the Pitch Shifter using the amp's controls and not Tone. I set it to -4 cents in pitch to try a detune effect, and when I returned to the preset the next day, the pitch only moves in factors of 20 instead of 1. So now I can't make the 4 into a 5 or 6 because it now jumps to 24, 44, 64, etc.

Also, I get situations in presets, on the amp or in iOS Tone, where certain effects are greyed-out and not selectable. Why?

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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:19 pm
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They go grey when the amount of processing power your effects chain is using is high and the greyed out ones are those which together with what u already have running would take more processing power then the amp is capable of.


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:12 am
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That's absurd, if the system is smart enough to decide on,
and enforce a grey-out, it should be able keep the effect chain
running with lower quality settings on the cpu munchers, which likely
won't even be noticed if the chain is busy enough to hit overload.
Fender need to hire far better programmers.

I have synthesizers and effects with a variety of qualities available,
which a trained bat might be able to hear, if some
fresh cows blood, or suitably aged fruit were on offer.
A guitar picker with old ears, not so much.


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:30 am
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guildorf wrote:
Fender need to hire far better programmers.

I kind of agree with this. It seems like they kept it as a "home baked" project instead of bringing in outside talent. On the other hand, there are a few companies out there making modeling amps who do have better programmers ... but notice their product just doesn't sound as good in real life. Not talking about AXE-FX here. So far nobody models Fender amps like Fender (IMO).


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:27 am
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if its any consolation, i just bought a katana artist, and while it ain't getting pried out of my cold dead hands because the tone and feel are killin, the GT is a far better amp as far as effects functionality and functionality in general. If you're complaining about how many effects you can use or the functionality of the amp, whatever you do do NOT get a katana ! It's a cornucopia of limitations in both using effects and switchability (well, switchability is ok IF you buy the $100 pedal it doesn't come with !)
and can't do a fraction of what the fender can. Don't get me wrong, i love it because of the tone and feel and to a much lesser degree, the effects quality. (lesser because i use few effects, but they sound great) But don't get me wrong.....not being much of a effects guy and being a utter tone snob, i can live with it. But if you use effects much at all, fender did you quite well on that one regardless of how much you complain ! There may be better as switching goes, but as the katana proves, there are far worse too ! My complaint with fender was tone. Thats where they needed outsourced talent. But not on the modeling but in the power section, cab and speaker. But the switching and functionality....while i complained too, i now realize it could be a whole lot worse !


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:57 am
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oczad, I too jumped ship for the Katana artist. It's my favorite amp I've ever owned. I'll agree that Fender has much higher usability but you really can't beat the sound of the Katana. I still do miss that GT interface, though.

There's a user-made virtual floorboard that lets you take more control of the Katana's built-in effects and their order in the signal chain: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloo ... erimental/. Also, do you know about the 28 additional "sneaky amps"? There's way more than meets the eye, you've just got to dig for it.

Lastly, I run a Katana subreddit, if Reddit is your thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/BossKatana/.


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:26 am
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Yes, i use sneaky amps and also not just boss tone studio and Gumtree's Floorboard app. Does some things tone studio won't and visa versa. As to switching, i know all thats available via midi and the GAFC controller but it;s all too much $ to bother with since i am not much of a effects guy. But tonally it's one of the best sounding amps i have owned which encompasses a few SS/modelers but a ton of tube amps.

I will say this to fender, and i have said it before but after owning the artist it become even more clear.....when GT2 comes out if it does, build a bigger better sounding cab and better power section and better speaker. Trust me, the artist has put HUGE effort in all those areas and it shows like you wouldn't believe . Do that and the GT will be a killer amp, i'm positive. Face it....the katana line has 99% better online reviews w/o exaggeration yet the fender slays it with functionality. What does that tell you? Theres a thread a mile long at every major forum about the katanas and a few small and mostly negitive ones on the GT that long ago faded away. Theres a katana thread over 700 pages long at TGP with mostly raves ! What does that tell you about the importance of tone vs foolishness like phone apps? Think about it !

keithshelley wrote:
oczad, I too jumped ship for the Katana artist. It's my favorite amp I've ever owned. I'll agree that Fender has much higher usability but you really can't beat the sound of the Katana. I still do miss that GT interface, though.

There's a user-made virtual floorboard that lets you take more control of the Katana's built-in effects and their order in the signal chain: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloo ... erimental/. Also, do you know about the 28 additional "sneaky amps"? There's way more than meets the eye, you've just got to dig for it.

Lastly, I run a Katana subreddit, if Reddit is your thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/BossKatana/.


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Post subject: Re: More Software Issues...
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:15 am
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oczad wrote:
.....when GT2 comes out if it does, build a bigger better sounding cab and better power section and better speaker.

Back in the days of the v1 and v2 amps, a similar request was made many times over. Give us more robust hardware, call it Mustang Pro and price it accordingly.


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