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Post subject: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:24 pm
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Received a surprise gift GT100 on my doorstep, today. Plugged it in, set it up, and updated everything. Initial impression is that it's a fantastic amp!

So, I started playing with sounds. I love me some thick clean, and almost dirty, sounds, and there are so many in this amp that I'm going to be playing with those forever. I'm a high-gain junkie, too. And I've been really pleased with the presets I've heard so far. So, I started playing. Metal2000 is supposed to be based on a 5150III, right? Great! Crank up the gain! The green overdrive stomp box is supposed to be based on a tube screamer, right? Pop that on the front side of the chain, and pump up the output! Sounded great . . .

. . . for about three seconds.

Then, the volume started cutting way down, then back, repeatedly. It kinda sounds like blocking distortion, minus the farting sound.

Can I really not play around with high gain on this amp? I mean, there are plenty of great tones but, the potential of what all of these parts could become is mighty tempting!

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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:43 am
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*wave* hi -- are you still having this problem?

Me too: intermittently, for maybe a second or two at a time, and usually more noticeable on high-gain presets (the Orange clone patch for example.) -- but then, higher-gain patches are what I've been practicing with recently.

Question - have you ever tried plugging in via line-out to an external speaker? I'm having few second drop-outs through the GT 100 speaker at random. A while ago I took my amp to a friend's place to plug into his PA - he and I were jamming along with a bunch of the high-gain presets ... we didn't notice anything after playing for a couple of hours.

So with my amp either this problem showed up recently, or it's a problem that's been there but it might be in the amp's output electronics. My GT100 was also a 'surprise gift' -- my old v2 Mustang III died of a hardware fault while still inside the warranty zone, and Fender sent me the GT.

I'm still exploring - please let me know if you've found anything. :-)


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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:46 pm
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The problem seemed to go away after I deleted the preset, and reconstructed it. I'm not sure what it was but, it's gone now, for me.

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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:53 pm
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Same problem here for about 6 months. It never goes away, it's just not something that happens a lot. But maybe once a week or 3 or even not for months it does it till i turn the amp on and off. Its one of the reasons i moved on to a katana. I've put up with more issues with this amp than literally all the other amps i have owned, and we're talking near 50 years and probably 100 amps. But this issue remains and has thru many updates and restores. So i moved on. Too bad because the mustang series was a great line and when the GT came out it was a opportunity to improve upon a great amp, but it failed me miserably in more ways than i have time to list. But this one was the one i could not get past because you can't have your amp crapping out on you at a gig or whatever. If a V2 comes out i will watch it for the first few months and see what kind of reviews it gets and maybe i will consider that if the katana hasn't kept my interest at that point. But this GT is the edsel of amps. (to you guys not old as me, that was a car in the 50's that was considered such a lemon it became the household word for "lemon")


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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:32 pm
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Grrr ... So basically this is the GT's version of the"Fender Fizz" that plagued the V1 Mustang series.

Anyone check to see if the sound cut-out shows up through the headphone output or when the amp is plugged into a PA through the line out jacks? I'm wondering if it's a hardware fault headed out towards the speaker.

I tried testing through the headphones for a little while, but I don't know if I spent enough time to trigger the error.


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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:44 pm
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Not exactly what is being described here I suppose but perhaps some variation thereof, I call it the "UPS" (Unstable Preset Syndrome)...basically, presets sounds change from time to time...sometimes even when the actual settings indicate no change, you can easily hear a difference with what you had stored previously...this one's tricky and might be misconstrued as another type of problem if you don't pay attention...but could be at the source of at least some of the perceived tonal shortcomings of the GT...which btw & fyi, I am a big fan of personally...have been in touch with the support team @ Fender for at least a couple months about this & other issues...


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:47 pm
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Yep, had that one too ! In fact, as i documented here a while back i told fender about it and they had me send the amp to them with the promise of sending me a new one so they could study it. When they got it they said they could not recreate the issue and long story short would not believe me when i told them certain things regarding why they couldn't. Then they sent it back to me and it continued to do it. They finally did send me a new one for a DIFFERENT issue and that one never did it, but it still does the issue this thread is about. But to be sure i was hearing what i thought i recreated the patch that had changed in another slot with every setting identical and it sounded different. And BADLY so. This is why they will never get this amp right....they refused to believe me so how are they going to fix what they don't believe is a problem? Good luck fender, you will need it ! Meanwhile my new katana artist continues to slay the GT tonally so i'm much better off now.

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Not exactly what is being described here I suppose but perhaps some variation thereof, I call it the "UPS" (Unstable Preset Syndrome)...basically, presets sounds change from time to time...sometimes even when the actual settings indicate no change, you can easily hear a difference with what you had stored previously...this one's tricky and might be misconstrued as another type of problem if you don't pay attention...but could be at the source of at least some of the perceived tonal shortcomings of the GT...which btw & fyi, I am a big fan of personally...have been in touch with the support team @ Fender for at least a couple months about this & other issues...


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:26 am
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oczad wrote:
Yep, had that one too ! In fact, as i documented here a while back i told fender about it and they had me send the amp to them with the promise of sending me a new one so they could study it. When they got it they said they could not recreate the issue and long story short would not believe me when i told them certain things regarding why they couldn't. Then they sent it back to me and it continued to do it. They finally did send me a new one for a DIFFERENT issue and that one never did it, but it still does the issue this thread is about. But to be sure i was hearing what i thought i recreated the patch that had changed in another slot with every setting identical and it sounded different. And BADLY so. This is why they will never get this amp right....they refused to believe me so how are they going to fix what they don't believe is a problem? Good luck fender, you will need it ! Meanwhile my new katana artist continues to slay the GT tonally so i'm much better off now.

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Not exactly what is being described here I suppose but perhaps some variation thereof, I call it the "UPS" (Unstable Preset Syndrome)...basically, presets sounds change from time to time...sometimes even when the actual settings indicate no change, you can easily hear a difference with what you had stored previously...this one's tricky and might be misconstrued as another type of problem if you don't pay attention...but could be at the source of at least some of the perceived tonal shortcomings of the GT...which btw & fyi, I am a big fan of personally...have been in touch with the support team @ Fender for at least a couple months about this & other issues...


So I'm curious, how's the K better than the GT tonally? From what I've read, I can see how u could come up with a few great sounds with the K, but there's just not enough flexibility especially in terms of preset storage whereas I can save several setlists with the GT. So maybe with the K, the couple of "go to" patches would be better sounding but I can easily get (save) many more sounds very close to the K from the GT. I mean that's my understanding without actually having played the K thus far.

Just to put things in perspective, I used to have the III v2 (obviously amongst many other amps throughout the years), and while I liked the previous mustangs, I find that the GT is not only heads & shoulders above it in terms of sound and functionality but also the best overall amp I've run across, all things considered.

That is, when it functions properly...


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:06 am
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The Katana seems like an interesting option. Less bells and whistles, but still a flexible platform.

Check it out with an acoustic plugged in. I can't think of any electric guitar amp that does a better job with an acoustic:

https://youtu.be/bRfBcKo_rIM?t=17m51s


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:13 pm
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The katana actually has as much if not more options than the mustangs but they are not available at the amp like the stangs. Flexibility is not a problem. If you only use the front panel theres not much, true. But hooking it to the boss tone studio app on pc (theres also a android version) allows you to access 30 more amp sounds, some of which i find better then the front panel amps. They call these "sneaky amps". Then there is a global parametric EQ with 2 bands plus low/high boost/cut and the option to assign it to pre or post amp. Theres also the same EQ within every model's preset to be used and a per preset EQ and has all the same features including input or output assign. Noise reduction, effects loop can be assigned or turned off for each preset and set to series or parallel. Pretty much every effect boss makes are included and all sound much better than the mustangs, some a LOT better. Theres also a graphic EQ in the FX section.

So it's literally as deep if not more than the mustangs, but are crippled in thier functionality. The mustangs allow much more effects flexibility and more simultaneous effects. But the short of it is that it has at least as much ability as the mustangs to tweak and come up with many sounds. And the tone overall is much better in that it sounds totally natural and has more much harmonic complexity than the mustangs. It's a very deceiving amp because people assume it's a simple amp like a tube amp. But behind the scenes theres a ton of settings and sounds available. Theres this one marshall model thats just incredible. Sound like a very vintage low gain marshall thats just that "sound in your head thing". I could live on that model and nothing else. The mustangs are galaxies behind in that sort of tone, not remotely close.

The big flaw in it is the functionality being tied to PC and effects functionality being crap. That doesn't disable you from using it to get great sounds and saving them to the amp for gigs. But it does make it a pain and more time consuming. Tho like the mustang theres a andriod version of boss tone studio so you can do deep tweaks at the gig. But compared to the mustang, the big difference in general soundwise to my ears is much more harmonic complexity, and a top end that is far more natural and usable than the mustangs, which tend to get really thin and brittle loud compared to the Kat. Overall the tone is just the most natural tube like tone i have yet heard from a modeler, but note i have the artist with the bigger cab and better speaker so that may be a large part of it compared to the regular katana. But the harmonic complexity is off the hook. The only time i have gotten it to this degree is with the better tube amps i've had, and only at stage volumes that are on the verge of getting you kicked out.


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:56 pm
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The katana actually has as much if not more options than the mustangs but they are not available at the amp like the stangs. Flexibility is not a problem. If you only use the front panel theres not much, true. But hooking it to the boss tone studio app on pc (theres also a android version) allows you to access 30 more amp sounds, some of which i find better then the front panel amps. They call these "sneaky amps". Then there is a global parametric EQ with 2 bands plus low/high boost/cut and the option to assign it to pre or post amp. Theres also the same EQ within every model's preset to be used and a per preset EQ and has all the same features including input or output assign. Noise reduction, effects loop can be assigned or turned off for each preset and set to series or parallel. Pretty much every effect boss makes are included and all sound much better than the mustangs, some a LOT better. Theres also a graphic EQ in the FX section.

So it's literally as deep if not more than the mustangs, but are crippled in thier functionality. The mustangs allow much more effects flexibility and more simultaneous effects. But the short of it is that it has at least as much ability as the mustangs to tweak and come up with many sounds. And the tone overall is much better in that it sounds totally natural and has more much harmonic complexity than the mustangs. It's a very deceiving amp because people assume it's a simple amp like a tube amp. But behind the scenes theres a ton of settings and sounds available. Theres this one marshall model thats just incredible. Sound like a very vintage low gain marshall thats just that "sound in your head thing". I could live on that model and nothing else. The mustangs are galaxies behind in that sort of tone, not remotely close.

The big flaw in it is the functionality being tied to PC and effects functionality being crap. That doesn't disable you from using it to get great sounds and saving them to the amp for gigs. But it does make it a pain and more time consuming. Tho like the mustang theres a andriod version of boss tone studio so you can do deep tweaks at the gig. But compared to the mustang, the big difference in general soundwise to my ears is much more harmonic complexity, and a top end that is far more natural and usable than the mustangs, which tend to get really thin and brittle loud compared to the Kat. Overall the tone is just the most natural tube like tone i have yet heard from a modeler, but note i have the artist with the bigger cab and better speaker so that may be a large part of it compared to the regular katana. But the harmonic complexity is off the hook. The only time i have gotten it to this degree is with the better tube amps i've had, and only at stage volumes that are on the verge of getting you kicked out.


Wow...thats quite an endorsement...guess i gotta hear it for myself to believe it cuz i really really like the GTs tone, fwiw....that being said, the hooking up to a pc as u mentioned is a deal breaker for me personally...that said, Im still intrigued and if the sound is that good, one wonders...


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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:13 pm
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Well, just because i feel that way doesn't mean you will. And note the Kat sounds much more in the marshall camp so f you really like the TYPE of tone u get from the GT u may prefer it. My main point is tone QUALITY, not type. So if you like sports cars chances are you'd prefer a mediocre sports car to the worlds best 4WD truck. I'm not tied to any TYPE of tone as long as it does what i want and sounds good doing it without making me feel like i have to keep turning knobs in a band mix to get it right.


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:45 pm
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I purchased at GT100 about 10 days ago. I was having this issue about once a day with various settings that I created. At least I think it’s the same issue. I would power cycle the amp and then it would perform properly. I was using a setting that I created, using a vintage tremolo, ’65 Twin, tape delay echo and large room reverb. The gain control setting on the amp was 5.9. When I would hit the problem, I would get no sound from the amp as I picked a note. Then, immediately after picking the note, the volume would come back up and I could hear the sustain of the note. A kind of neat effect, but not one I want the amp forcing on me! Last evening, I played for about an hour and a half and was running into this problem about every 5 minutes. Once the problem started, it persisted no matter what preset I turned to, with headphones or through the amp speaker. A couple of times, I just kept playing and after a few minutes the problem would go way. But most of the time, I would immediately power cycle the amp.

This afternoon I did a factory reset on the amp. I played through one of the factory presets for about a half hour and didn’t hit the problem. Then, I recreated one of the presets that I was having problems with, except I set the gain at 4.0 instead of 5.9. I played for about 20 minutes with this preset and had no issues. I then moved the gain up to 5.0 and had the problem within 2 minutes.

At this point I’m not sure of what I’m going to do. I will most likely return the amp for a refund and wait a while and see if there is a software fix announced or maybe a V2 announced. It’s frustrating. This amp is a great concept, but it seems poorly executed.


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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:29 pm
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is there a solution for this issue yet? o bought the gt100 ago i am having this issue.
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Post subject: Re: GT100 Sound dropping out/blocking distortion?
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:44 pm
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Has there been an official fix (or otherwise) for this yet?

It’s an awesome amp, but I’m having the same issue with dropping out...

Anything, anyone?


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