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Post subject: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:09 am
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The bug: playing a patch and not even near the footswitch and the patch changed to the one next to it. I thinit was on 2 and switched to 1 or visa versa. Only happened once so hopefully it was a fluke, but has anyone else experienced this? Because if so it should be mentioned to fender.

On the EQ's....one serious problem with them....they change the amp;s versatility to nearly infinite, and at my age i don't have time to fully explore the possibilities ! :mrgreen: Seriously, they are so good i'm floored. I mean, i've used EQ's forever, but when you have the ability to assign them to any patch and EQ THAT PATCH only, the possibilities are infinitely more then putting a EQ in the loop. In the loop a EQ would be nothing more then to tune a room. With assignable EQ (three no less !) i'm finding my ability to pursue near perfection possible where as before, after a lot of tweaking you'd hit a wall and you never get better then that point. Now i can take it much further towards perfection. Example: cabs. I have always used the 412GB cab because to my ear it had the best balance of frequencies and the character i most liked. But I would often find that certain things about thr best tone i could achive weren't as good as could be, and there would be another cab that would get me what i wanted but it would always have some sort of detail about it that bothered me and made it unusable for me. For example, i always liked the immediacy and strong fat attack of the twin cab, but at the same time is had this mid frequency that ruined it for me. I simply tried it again with the GE7 at the end of the chain and took one band (think it was 800hz) down about 5 db and there it was....excatly what i wanted from that cab ! Till the EQ's i never used any other can for long before I'd go back to the 412GB but now i have different versions of my main sound that are all great. The 412GB always had a bit of harshness in the high end at times depending at what i'm doing and with the twin cab it's gone. Not that it's better, just better for certain things. whats so great is that being stuck with that one cab as i was before, the amp tended to sound like it always had a certain overall character like any tube amp no matter what model i used. Now it sounds like a whole different amp when i want it to making it incredibly versatile. But in a way my tongue in cheek remark at the beginning IS true...there are now so many possibities you could spend years looking for perfection and constantly improving it. Thats a great thing but it can be a trap. But because every cab has it's own unique character and now all can be made usable, the possibilities for greatness are nearly infinite. I'll be trying every cab there is now and seeing what else i can come up with. Great stuff !

But this just the beginning. No end to what it's capable of now !


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Post subject: Re: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:41 am
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I'll second everything you said about the EQs. You can make a tone that sounded just 'good' into one that almost jumps out of the amp at you! And to think it was once described as sounding boxy... :P
PS - I haven't seen the patch jumping bug so hopefully you were just unlucky
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Post subject: Re: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:06 pm
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What is REALLY idiotic is there are still trolls at various forums that just have to chime in every time a GT thread comes up and spew the BS that they are boxy or muffled sounding etc. Funny thing is, mine was NEVER muffled or boxy from day one. But it's just gone from very good to great with the changes to date, but no matter how good it gets they will continue with the kindergarten BS. You just have to know what u r doing to make a amp with so much control sound great but i suspect judging by thier playing most of those youtube guys who dissed them just don't have the ear to know how. They continue to this day with that juvenile crap and they would no doubt do so even if they had the chance to really hear what it can do. These people just hide behind the anonymity of the web so they can say things they would never say to your face. Pathetic.

In any case, you're right....with the EQ's you can really get that slammin attack that makes the notes just jump out at you while still maintaining everything good about the tone, which is exactly what modelers in general tend not to do well. It was the one thing that i liked about the MIII a bit better then the GT. But the MIII sounded lousy in every other way. So now you can get that same punchy attack from the GT while having much better tone in all other respects. It is finally what i expected from the MIII's successor. I just wish the footswitch was more reliable. I seem to be in the minority i guess, but mine freezes up a lot. It;s the last remaining niggle for me really. But i can live with it.


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Post subject: Re: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:59 pm
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I find quite often it's only a minor adjustment needed with the EQ that can really make such a large impact on the tone. The models can sound and feel totally alive under the fingers. Like you say though, there are plenty who don't want to believe it!
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Post subject: Re: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:27 pm
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Absolutly....the biggest mistake people make with EQ's is to over use it. Too much boost or cut on too many bands. The best way is to stop when you just start to notice and improvement. But it's hard not to keep going which then defeats the purpose. Thats the key tho. Envision the freq area that needs attention, cut or boost the band you think is it a lot just to exaggerate it so you can tell if that's the area that needs attention. If it's not try another band, but when you find the culprit, cut/boost a lot then return it to zero and slowly cut or boost till the fix is just there and not a bit more. A good way to see if it's right is to first copy the patch somewhere in 2 slots right next to each other then experiment with one of them. This way you can instantly switch back and fourth between them and get a perfect instant A/B that will tell you exactly how much it improved or if it's too much. But yeah, you're dead on....use it judiciously and only as much as it takes.


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Post subject: Re: New bug plus thoughts on the new EQ's
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:03 am
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Ozcad I couldn’t agree more the fact you mentioned the attack makes me feel a ton better cause I went An played a fender blues Jr hot rod nos “I get so confused is it a blues Jr or hot Rod cause I wasn’t under the impression hot rods don’t come
In 15 watt” anyway it’s the tweed color one I think the only difference is speaker but the attack of a tube amp
Had me in the palm of its hands! I loved the sound of that amp An was close to Selling the gt An was going to get almost retail for throwing in the pedal with it But literally the last night I wanted to jam it before I Sold it I noticed an update Ann omg!! It was the Most pivotal update to date adding the eqs totallt brought the speaker to life... I’m sure a speaker swap would sound great but I think with the Eqs in play no and me only using the GT for cleans An fx when at gigs “I ABY a
Orange crush 35rt frickn steal of a solid state amp that sounds tubed fits metal is not all this amp can do you guys ever get a chance check em out” but when I rub the Y An let’s the mustang Be the lead oh Man the sound Is great I cancelled selling it no point in investing in anything that isn’t like 1000 or More meaning pro material for a beginnings band playing bars An various venues An budget is tight along with the EQs you can dial in whatever you need I immediately cut the bass an boosted mids a Little An then cut high An pushed the gain up to see what this speaker can do An wow that attack Is no there!!!! I think any of us GT oweners you Owned these amps early on I bought mine second week out traded in My mustang IIIV2 limited edition for the GT it’s been a long road An worry worry worry did I mess up trading amps I knew in the beginning they had something special here if they would of Put a better speaker in to the GTs to begin with fender woulda smashed all other modelers but maybe kemper but on fender patches I had a buddy who liked my fender patches on gt better then the kemper.... there’s still issues to work out Ann the speaker still is meh... but with the help of the Eqs I think I’m set


I hate the $@!& fender catches sometimes if you took off the fender decal on front An Put peavy or nothin to at all Ann played I bey people would Be trying to buy one next day.... honestly believe that... I’m Going to continue gigging with this amp till my band reaches a hgher platform but i want to gig An show people this amp for local bar scenes An semi pro guitarist can Use this amp An have great tone all day.. I won’t lie if I had more money I wouldn’t be be doing digital but after looking at all fenders combos “hot rod, blues jr, tweed, deville” under $1000 the GTs does just as good as those amps or rights below it an what it lacks in tone vs a tube amp which isn’t much if you know your way around the GT you can simulate the tones so close It’s not worth passing up when you considers light weight, no tubes an moding needing done other then speaker, so less bench time an money all the stomps you get are ridiculous An they sound great especially the modulations pedals, has plenty of power to not have to crank to where’ it starts to sound muddy, it’s constantly getting better, the PRICE, An then finally all the extras that make things easy need to play to a tracks blue tooth, neighbors or have to keep its down it has headphone out that sound great, an then being able to plug straight into PA from the XLR inputs is handy... I will say digital gain hasn’t gotten me to talk it up yet... it’s getting there but that’s why but I got the crush the High gain although sounds good it seems a little processed, like I said if I’m able to gig professionally no i won’t play a GT, I be back on tubes but for the price and sound with the latest update it’s a steal for people just starting to do shows like I said when’s you get to More prestigious venues An on a bill with pro bands then yeah get quality
Pro gear, all other needs like bars An little outside gigs the gt is a steal


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