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Post subject: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:01 am
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OK, I am replacing at least one of the Celestion speakers in the cabinet. They are just to tinny sounding for me. I know what I am getting already too... my question deals with the the Ohms and Watts of the current speakers... I am guessing those Celestion speakers are 8 ohm, 100 watt each... but I want to make sure. Can't find anywhere on the net where Fender or Celestion has said these specs. Does anyone here know?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:40 pm
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They should be 4 ohm like my GT100. The 200 is comprised of TWO 100 watt power amps in stereo, so no doubt the same power sections at 4 ohms per as my GT100's single. They are 100 watt speakers. You can be sure if they are indeed 4 ohms by looking on the side of the magnets. there will be a white sticker that will say what the ohms are . Might need a flashlight and mirror to see that easily w/o removing them. And yes, they ARE tinny, especially at stage volume. I have run several speakers and at the moment i rigged it to have a speaker jack in parallel with the internal speaker so i have a 8 ohm celestion G12T-100 like in the old mustang in the GT, then i use a 8 ohm EV12L in a seperate 1x12 cab for a total of 4 ohms. To say that sounds better then the stock speaker is a understatement. I can unhook the cab and get a different sound with just the 8 ohm G12T100 that also sounds good in a different way and is fine at home. For band use if i were to go with 1 speaker i'd want a 4 ohm in it or else do what i'm doing now with 2 8 ohm speakers in parallel.

In any case, you're on the right track considering swapping out those horrid speakers. They were chosen to be a compromise between guitar tone and the GT's streaming feature. So they aren't optimal for guitar as you have noticed. If I were you i'd put a couple 4 ohm celestion 100's in it. The new hot 100 which they say is the same as the G12T100 comes in 4 ohm. The old ones do too but you'd have to find them used and 4 ohm versions used are rare.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:46 pm
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You were right. The white label says 4 ohm. Thanks for the help!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:55 pm
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Maybe you guys can help me as I know nothing about speakers. I just ordered a Mustang Gt 100. I have a 8 ohm WGS ET 90. Will it work in the GT100? Or do I need to only use a 4 ohm speaker in it?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:24 pm
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The WGS will work, it'll just have a bit less volume than a 4 ohm. Itls fiune to use a speaker of a higher rating but not lower. The power amp will be putting out roughly 50-55% of the power it's rated at with a ohm speaker. Having used a couple 4's including a 4 ohm WGS ET90 and three 8 ohm speakes the volume difference in general is like turning it up about 1 or 2 numbers on the master with a 4 ohm vs a 8. My speakers are all about the same as far as sound pressure level too, about 99-100 db. But with the new EQ's they just gave us in the last update you can use their gain functions to boost the signal into the power amp and regain the volume loss if needed.

On a side note, the ET90 is good but i eventually started feeling it's a bit dark and lacking in chime with the GT. Probably a great speaker with bright amps but i came to prefer the celestion G12T100 and EV12l. The ET90 seems sorta like a G12T100 with some of the top knocked off. But it;s subjective and I;m still experimenting with speakers. The GT can be a much better amp with the right speaker(s).


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:23 am
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Hi
I'm still waiting for a 4ohm wgs90 to arrive and am using my wgs65 at home in the meantime.
Combine this with the recent firmware upgrade, especially the eqs, and my GT100 is an absolute winner!
I could not be happier. Great tones, great with external pedals, great all-round.
I was initially very critical of Fender for the premature release of this unit, but they have really made up for that with the functionality now available.
Really impressed.
The speaker upgrade in my opinion is a significant part of the equation.
Cheers
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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:33 am
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OK so get this. I sent an email to Fender Customer Relations and asked them to tell me the specs on these speakers (before I got the answer here on the forum). I got a return email today and they said the speakers in the GT 200 are 8 OHM. Even though the sticker says 4 OHM. I sent an email back telling them about the sticker, waiting to hear back. My only fear (stupid though it may be) is that the ohm rating on the sticker may be total ohms for the amp... so 2 speakers, 8 ohm each, makes 4 ohm. I don't think that's it... I think they are 4 ohm speakers, but I'll wait to see what Fender Customer Relations says and let you guys know....


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:51 pm
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Thats not unusual at all. One thing i can assure you of is that ANY rep from ANY company will give you and incorrect answer if you ask them a question they don't know. Many of them depending on their position and how it relates to your question would rather take a wild guess then tell you they don't know. The amp has TWO separate output sections that are 100 watts each. What do you think the chances are they used completely different output sections than the GT100? Ignore him. You can't trust employees in any company today. I could tell you story after story just in the last 2 or 3 years of some of the ridiculous misinformation i have gotten from reps of all types of companies. It's just the way of the world today. Your speakers are 4ohms, period. And NO, they NEVER do that ! (sticker being the total for both) The white sticker is NOT a fender sitcker. It is put on there by celestion and is the rating for the ONE speaker. Thats not my opinion, thats fact, and all celestions have them.

As to the speaker itself, i talked to celestion about it and what i was told is it is special made for fender for thier GT amps and is according to celestion basically a 100 watt version of celestion's "seventy/80" speaker. Go look at reviews of the seventy/80. If you can find a positive review you'll find 20 more saying they sound like crap.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:07 pm
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So they replied back that they were incorrect... they are all 4 Ohm speakers.

Thanks everybody for the posts... I'm going with a Texas Heat... I love the darker, more midrange tones it gives... had one in my GT100.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:49 pm
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That might actually work really good with the other stock speaker by balancing out it's piercing harsh top. And if not u can always replaced the other one later on. Of course there IS the possibiity different speakers could cause some effects weirdness since they are stereo and optimized so each side of the stereo should be the same speaker wise. It's different than 2 speakers on a single mono amplifier output.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:35 pm
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I have the GT200 and I'm looking into putting different speakers in...wondering what you guys think about taking the speaker out of my Mustang III and putting it in the GT200?

Update: I just remembered that the speaker in the Mustang III is 8 ohms, isn't it? I may still try it. Just looking for some thoughts from others.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:57 pm
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jakecentric wrote:
I have the GT200 and I'm looking into putting different speakers in...wondering what you guys think about taking the speaker out of my Mustang III and putting it in the GT200?

Update: I just remembered that the speaker in the Mustang III is 8 ohms, isn't it? I may still try it. Just looking for some thoughts from others.


It's fine. Thats what i'm using now in my GT100, tho i have a extention cab with an EV so i'm using two 8 ohm speakers in parallel for a total of 4 ohms. However, i used the celestion 8 ohm in the GT without a second speaker for a good while, thats not a problem. I just wanted the EV in the equasion too because it sounds great like that. It works fine with 8 ohms tho the amp will be putting out roughly 1/2 the power which results in a tad less volume is all. But it works fine, and with the EQ's the amp now has you can use them after the amp model and use thier gain setting to get that volume back. I much prefer the G12t100 because it has the typical guitar amp balance of frequencies. the stock speaker is like jacking up the high mods and is the harshest speaker i've ever heard at anything over bedroom volumes. There it's fine tho, but who buys a 12"/100w amp for bedroom levels?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:49 am
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It's fine. Thats what i'm using now in my GT100, tho i have a extention cab with an EV so i'm using two 8 ohm speakers in parallel for a total of 4 ohms. However, i used the celestion 8 ohm in the GT without a second speaker for a good while, thats not a problem. I just wanted the EV in the equasion too because it sounds great like that. It works fine with 8 ohms tho the amp will be putting out roughly 1/2 the power which results in a tad less volume is all. But it works fine, and with the EQ's the amp now has you can use them after the amp model and use thier gain setting to get that volume back. I much prefer the G12t100 because it has the typical guitar amp balance of frequencies. the stock speaker is like jacking up the high mods and is the harshest speaker i've ever heard at anything over bedroom volumes. There it's fine tho, but who buys a 12"/100w amp for bedroom levels?


I put the speaker in last night and left the other one in as well, so I'm running one stock speaker along with the one from the Mustang III. Not a HUGE difference, but definitely a difference. Probably going to order 2 new speakers to put in there now that I've heard the difference for myself.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:18 am
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Hi, I need help please.
I'm trying to swap the speakers of my Mustang GT 200 with WGS ET90. I have unscrewd the four screws of the speakers but I can't remove them. Are they stuck with glue? Are there any other screw, maybe behind the grill? Thanks


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Post subject: Re: Mustang GT 200 Speakers
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:24 am
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There aren't any other screws or glue but the seal can stick to the wood. You have to be very careful pulling the speakers off or you can rip the seal leaving half of it stuck to the wood and the speakers not much use for anything else.


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