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Post subject: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:19 am
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Is the speaker the biggest difference between the the mustang III and the GT? I use to have the IIIv2 but then sold it for the GT100 what a mistake that’s been till recently... I knew from the beginning the modeling technology was better in the GT that’s a given in my opinion not even close. ALL the effects are great the modulation I think pro quality, the digital works has figured out modulation is effects I believe, distortion overdrive and wah is another discussion.... but to the point... if then speaker was the only major difference between the GT and III then wow... just wow.... fender has to be kicking themselves in the butt for not putting that speaker in the one... if the III was already that’s successful can you imagine what the GT woulda did if it woulda been up to shape basically how it is now. I had mine SOLD on eBay an hadn’t messed with it for a week “ I’ve had it since the first month it came out” quit checking now for updates or ways to help the tone cuz I love the amp i think fender is so close here espaiclly patches that include their own stuff...

I’ve been trying to decide to get a blues jr or tubed amp or stick with the gt I’m only using it for cleans and effects live I ABY a orange crush 35ct and that is my gain channel... I’m gigging with a lot more promising avenues and other bands and while I will do what I feel is best... I wonder if I can trust keeping the GT100 and making it work An still getting live stage volume tone that is atleast ballpark as good as the tubed fenders.. for only cleans An Minor disortion im hoping it stacks up...

This last update with the eqs really helped a lot “ although they shouldn’t make us use it as a pedal in the chain it limits the ability to put other fx in that’
Chain, would be cool if you could just eq each patch how you wanted”. The speaker has come to life now that I cranked the bass end an cut down mids An boosted highs a little An over volume... now I believe it’s a 100 watt amp lol those eqs brought the crap speaker to what crappy life it has it really does sound a hell of a lot better. So now I have this buyer and after watching a YouTube video of speaker swap in the in the III there was a swamp thing I believe put into it an holy hell...

So is it worth to dump more money into the gt with a speaker swap “keep in mind I’m looking for a primary clean amp it will have some dirt not much I have orange for that m” or shouldn’t I take the 375 offered and take the money I got saved An buy blues jr or hot Rod?

After reading all the praise the III still gets for at home recording and Live I know This gt is capable of sounding better then the III prob by double with real speaker it’s jsut a question of is the GT reliable Enough to gig with semi professionally. It doesn’t have to Ben exactly as good as the tubed if it’s in the ball park I say hell keep it. But do y’all think it’s worth fixing fenders mistake with new speaker “around 100 little over for a good one” or sell An go tubed I’ve owned tubed amps no fenders tho An I love the cleans as the rest of us and I love the GT but if it’s never guna even come close to tubes maybe moving on is better maintaining a tube amp
Again will suck but if a speaker swap can’t do it in your guys opinion I’m done with it


I played a hot rod but it’s to loud at the store to get a feel for for it plus with everyone’s wailing away it’s hard to lock in it’s a small store as well... so anyone who’s owned hot rods, devilles, tweeds, blues jr, will a swap on speaker An this new eq update get
Me close to that tone of a tubed fender?!


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:50 am
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They sound a lot different. The GT with the MIII's speaker still sounds a lot different. The MIII has a seriously bad harshness in the high mids at stage level that was all but impossible to dial out and i ended up using a outboard EQ to get rid of it. Tonally the GT as i have said a million times is crippled by the speaker. The new EQ's will certainly help with that but it;;s still not going to sound as good as the MIII's G12T100. I've gone around with speakers and it's taken me time because i no longer play out and only jam with friends about every month or 2. So i never know the truth about how good a given speaker will be till i try it there, but i came to realize i like the G12T100 better the the WGS i was using but it's 8 ohm so i decided to add my 8 ohm EV12L to equal 4 ohms and the sound seemed really great with 2 12's. Tho every time i disconnect the ext can with the EV and just run the G12T100 i thing thats the best sound because with the EV in the mix it just kinda overpowers the celestions great sound. So at the next jam i will try it both ways and if when unplugging the EV and just running the celestion i find it to be better, I still might end up buying a 4 ohm G12T100 and just leaving it at that. I would likely have done that by now had i found one but they are rather rare in 4 ohms ad i don't want the new "hot 100'' even if it IS supposed to be the same speaker.

In any case, the speaker is a important thing with the GT to ME, but the amp itself is very different and much better than the MIII IMO.


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:47 am
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I've seen many threads created by you all saying the same things about the GT amp and how it doesn't fit your "live" playing, asking what Amp is better, if you should sell it. It seems clear that this Amp simply just doesn't fit you and isn't what you're looking for. The simple answer to all your questions is to just go look for a different Amp instead of constantly saying the same things over and over. Sorry if this comes off as rude but settling for something that you don't like isn't going to change anything and constantly asking different questions about different amps won't help unless you get out there and try them. It doesn't sound like you know too much about amplifiers, no offence, so I would recommend going to your local music store and talk to the individuals there who may be able to find what will suit what you're looking for better.


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:10 pm
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Ozcad let me know how the speaker swapping goes for you and what you end up sticking with, I looked at a couple last night seen a couple videos on youtube. The swamp thing patriot seemed solid, I really liked the WGS ET90 " I think I have that right with the name" it seemed to have a solid bottom end yet shimmering mids and highs, the couple youtube videos I found sounded good but I think the video I seen were those speakers in a tubed amp so I can expect the sound to be a little less warm with a speaker like that in the GT correct?

also, shooting for 4ohms and 100 watts is the type of speaker is need to look for to through the GT, 8ohm to what I understand will be a little more quiet, which I guess wouldn't be the worst thing cause 100 watts is enough to gig with but if I can avoid volume loss might as well, seems like ill be searching high and low for a 4 ohm, im going to stack up the GT against my band mates blue jr 40 watt we will see how close I can get the GT to sound as good as the Blues JR, if its close at all ill keep the GT and save some money going tubed route if the difference is huge on tone quality then ill just have to let her go. But with as many gigging musicians that raved about the III and played it live, you would think swapping the speaker of the GT would have a better outcome on the GT then it did the III..


and to the troll, ive had the amp since the beginning the stuff I had to deal with I think entitles me to post as many posts as I feel I need to, sorry no to be rude.


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:41 pm
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I guess owning this amp gives the person a sense of entitlement mixed with delusion. I shall simply skip your post tomorrow about which speaker to buy so you can use the Mustang GT at your "gigs" or if you should sell it for a different amp.

Cheers 8)


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:46 pm
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Bear in mind that a forum such as this contains opinions, not facts. That, unusually, is a fact. You will not find what you are looking for here no matter how many times you ask the same question. Nobody can tell you what you want to hear. There is no answer, just opinions.


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:25 pm
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stratocaster1983 wrote:
Bear in mind that a forum such as this contains opinions, not facts. That, unusually, is a fact. You will not find what you are looking for here no matter how many times you ask the same question. Nobody can tell you what you want to hear. There is no answer, just opinions.


This^^^.
I told you (OP) much more than will do you any good already because like the above post, it's time you start trying things for yourself. You've asked everything and I've answered everything that CAN be answered and then some. Theres literally not another thing anyone can say thats going to get u any closer to which speaker to get. If i knew that i wouldn't have already tried several myself would I ? The only way i could figure it out for ME is experimentation, so how are words going to help YOU ? Realistically i think at this point your choices are leave it as is and take it for what it is and use your other amps when you feel they will do the job better, start spending money on speakers, or sell it.


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Post subject: Re: Difference between the mustang III and GT1000
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:48 pm
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Lmfao okay gents but what the point
Of a forum if the answer is always idk try it out and see I think we all like to share our trail An errors to maybe help other I hate when people say only you can tell so it doesn’t matter well
No $@!&..... lol obviously the only reason I get on a forum is to weed through the $@!& Info An Find the the really good information there is not much out anywhere about speaker swoappin the GT and I’ve never looked into Speakers much like after market so sorry for trying to really find out some other experiences... it helps gather more data to make a choice..... pretty $@!&#* I think guys i get it I am repetitive but it’s for to getting a better dialog going on the subject finding more people that have done it an get them to create an account an give feedback i Mean that’s what I thought a forum
Is about... thanks for the helps you guys have given anyways it helped get me looking at models of speakers

Cheers


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