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Post subject: Re: GT 100 vs hot rod deluxe III vs blues jr
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:15 am
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All these amps will give the tone you are after, it all comes down to the size of your gigs and how loud your fellow musicians play. I had a Hot Rod Deluxe but at 40W it was quite heavy and too loud for my six-piece blues band. I have to say that I don't use pedals, just an amp and Tele or 335. I got rid of the Hot Rod Deluxe and got a Blues Junior. It is 15 watts and has a great tone when pushed but needs to be miced-up for larger venues and outdoor gigs. The GT-100 works best when it is not pushed too hard so it sounds better miced-up and run at half volume.


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Post subject: Re: GT 100 vs hot rod deluxe III vs blues jr
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:18 am
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IMO it depends on your ability to squeeze the best out of the GT. Some can't, I've seen it where people aren't happy with a modeler till someone else gives them a patch they made and all of a sudden they're thrilled. Modelers are NOT simple plug and play because there are so many settings it's easier to get a sound that doesn't make you totally happy then the opposite, and the fact is the difference between what you'd call great tone and average tone is a very tiny difference. It's that last few percent of tone goodness that is the difference between an amp you're happy with and one you never bond with and end up selling.

So i think you could be happy with the GT depending on 1-wherther it offers the sounds YOU are looking for and 2-whether you can tweak it to give up it;s best. Personally i have always used master volume amps and use a average amount of overdrive that cleans up well with the guitar volume at 4-5, and IMO the GT is capable of doing a great job at that which has made me quite satisfied with it compared to uncountable tube amps I've owned. I should say however i had to change the speaker to get there, but thats me. A lot of people think the GT excels art cleans, but IMO it;s master volume overdirve sound i lie from it and i feel if you are looking for cleans to compare with the fender tube amps you mentioned, i'm not sure if you'd be happy with it or not. I personally don't use that sound, as like i said i get my cleans from a overdiven sound that i use my guitar's volume to clean up. And thats a very different feeling clean. The feel of the amp models set clean on the GT to me feels a lot different. They sound ok, but the feel of a clean fender tube amp isn't the same IMO. But thats me and a lot of people think the GT excels at that, so it's really impossible to go by responses here or anywhere w/o trying one yourself and spending enough time with it.

But in the end no one here including me can tell you, only buying one will allow you to really know. My suggestion if you are in a location that allows it, is to find a store like guitar center that has a 45 day return policy and just buy one and use it for a month or so. Thats way you will know for sure on way of the other and theres no way to lose. But overall i think that no matter what kind of sound you're after, the GT does a good job on them all, some great. It just depends on your needs and what YOU call great tone and how picky you are. I'm very picky about tone, and i will say there are tube amps that sounded better, but the GT has so many advantages the difference would have to be considerable b4 i'd go back. But again, you need to get one and see because no one here can tell you what u r asking because they don't have your exact ears, mind, fingers, etc etc.


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Post subject: Re: GT 100 vs hot rod deluxe III vs blues jr
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:43 pm
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THANK YOU FELLAS!!!! Those were really helpful responses I was hoping for! I was on the verge of selling the amp......until last night I updated the firmware "btw I have owned the GT since the first month it came out, no lie, so I def know how to tweek and tinker with this amp. This last update with the EQs being available might be game changer especially cause they can be stacked. I didn't have long to mess with it but turning up the first two slots of the EQ the bass pretty much then cutting the middle ones out "sorry I don't have the knowledge to know each slots number lablel" and then leveled out the highs and WOW I also turned up the overall volume a tad an then once I set it then kept by passing it to hear the difference with the Eqs on and off and it was a whole different type of speaker it felt like. I mean it just sounded tiny and hallow, still very clean, but the GT always lacked that room filling bass I felt like that people often call the warm tube amp sound. Not that these Eqs made the amp better then the tubed combos but it def gave more of an warm bassy room filling sound. I think the EQs were the single most CRUCIAL update fender has given out since the beginning I think I notice each update the amp seems to get louder with the eqs last night the amp for the first time felt like a 100watt amp that's really frickn loud. I have went to local shops and tried the amps like hot rod and what not and its always hard to get a real feel with so many people around wailing away......plus I haven't, "to this point" brought in my amp an set my patches next to the tubed amps then choose which I thought was better.

I was over the mustang until literally the update last night. I mean I just don't think there was anything on the amp that has allowed that speaker to be pushed like that and now there is and its not a bad speaker it can thunder and stay clear at low volumes. As you guys mentioned I noticed anything over half the flub muddy stuff starts to peak out.

what do you guys think of the EQs you think they matter that much, as I mentioned I know it comes down to what I want I just personally would like feed back on experienced people whoa have been through the trial an error much like myself. I am looking to just to use the FX on the Gt and only use the Fender Patches for cleans. The ts9 distortion doesn't sound half bad on there but to anything higher or crunchier I use the orange crush 35ct "which is such a great little amp for so cheap cant believe its solid state". So I am relying on the Gt for only the cleans channel and FX then it sounds like the GTs aren't to far from an actual tubed fender combo in tone an overall sound? I know to each his own I am asking the many fender amp combo owner who also know how to work the GT to get all you can out of it for their input.

Also, what kind of speaker swap did you do man, if you don't mind me asking? I am def considering not with these onboard Eqs available. Idk if Im just beating a dead horse and excited but I feel like the EQs might help tremendously, you guys feel that way?

Main reason I want feedback an make a post like this, is to gather others thoughts, If I can swap speakers and make this amp "clean tone wise" sound even in the ball park of the tubed combos I could save myself some money and keep it. But if there really is a whooping difference in quality with tubed and the GT regardless of speaker swaps and updates cant even get close to those combos then I think its time to move on. Its a unbelievable beginners amp and jam out in the bed room or with the band. My question to the seasoned vets is can a semi-pro aspiring gigging guitarist like myself get at tubed combo sound or close out of the Gt or am I beating a dead horse??

I love the mustang and if money wasn't tight I would keep it as my practice amp for sure im just wondering if it can be made into a quality amp for myself, with the other guitarist in my band having a blues jr.

I plan to stack the two amps together this weekend at practice with the eq on GT and see how it sounds before I sell it but your guys feedback is very much appreciated every penny counts toward my rig.

How was the speaker swap for those that have? was it a whole new amp type of change? "in a good way"

Thank again for the feedback gents I live in a secluded area not much around to get info like this other then forums with seasoned vets as yourselves. Cheers hope to hear back


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Post subject: Re: GT 100 vs hot rod deluxe III vs blues jr
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:29 am
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oczad wrote:
IMO it depends on your ability to squeeze the best out of the GT. Some can't, I've seen it where people aren't happy with a modeler till someone else gives them a patch they made and all of a sudden they're thrilled. Modelers are NOT simple plug and play because there are so many settings it's easier to get a sound that doesn't make you totally happy then the opposite, and the fact is the difference between what you'd call great tone and average tone is a very tiny difference. It's that last few percent of tone goodness that is the difference between an amp you're happy with and one you never bond with and end up selling.

So i think you could be happy with the GT depending on 1-wherther it offers the sounds YOU are looking for and 2-whether you can tweak it to give up it;s best. Personally i have always used master volume amps and use a average amount of overdrive that cleans up well with the guitar volume at 4-5, and IMO the GT is capable of doing a great job at that which has made me quite satisfied with it compared to uncountable tube amps I've owned. I should say however i had to change the speaker to get there, but thats me. A lot of people think the GT excels art cleans, but IMO it;s master volume overdirve sound i lie from it and i feel if you are looking for cleans to compare with the fender tube amps you mentioned, i'm not sure if you'd be happy with it or not. I personally don't use that sound, as like i said i get my cleans from a overdiven sound that i use my guitar's volume to clean up. And thats a very different feeling clean. The feel of the amp models set clean on the GT to me feels a lot different. They sound ok, but the feel of a clean fender tube amp isn't the same IMO. But thats me and a lot of people think the GT excels at that, so it's really impossible to go by responses here or anywhere w/o trying one yourself and spending enough time with it.

But in the end no one here including me can tell you, only buying one will allow you to really know. My suggestion if you are in a location that allows it, is to find a store like guitar center that has a 45 day return policy and just buy one and use it for a month or so. Thats way you will know for sure on way of the other and theres no way to lose. But overall i think that no matter what kind of sound you're after, the GT does a good job on them all, some great. It just depends on your needs and what YOU call great tone and how picky you are. I'm very picky about tone, and i will say there are tube amps that sounded better, but the GT has so many advantages the difference would have to be considerable b4 i'd go back. But again, you need to get one and see because no one here can tell you what u r asking because they don't have your exact ears, mind, fingers, etc etc.



What’ speaker did you but in ozcad? And do you know guitar speakers very well I’m just now learning how much the speaker plays a part in everything I mean half of it is the speaker if not more tubes sound Great but I’m
Learning a lot about the right speakers. I would want one with a better Low end and have solid highs the GT fender patches always take care of their mids on their own.... I think a lot of the warm tube sound we call it that lacks on modelers is a little bit of a bass issue I noticed on the eq with the new update upping the bass cutting mids a little Ann upping highs an gain really brought this speaker to life... so what’s a good brand budget speaker that has solid tight lows yet still have nice highs so all the notes for a clean type of channel are expressed. I heard swamp thing is a notable speaker and the WGS et90 I think I’ve read on this forum has a nice round end... I wish i was closer to shops but I’m in country so it’s hard to get anyway it’s why I rely on knowledgeable gigging vets to give advice plus previous amp owners... are you gigging with the GT Oz?


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Post subject: Re: GT 100 vs hot rod deluxe III vs blues jr
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:10 am
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I’ve done some research re read a couple thing on this forum... so I gota feel I guess for a couple speakers the orange crush amp has a great bass heavy speaker.... so I’m a little skeptical to get the swamp thing it’s good lows like I want but it’s not hopefully so low i don’t cut through the mix.. the WGS 90 was really impressive on all the YouTube videos I watched a couple people swap out their mustang III Speakes which I can only imagine would make the gt even stronger from a the same type of upgrade.... so correct me if I’m wrong I need to shoot for a 8 ohm speaker or 4 then 100 Watts correct? Is it smart to
Get a speaker that’s more wattage then the amp has for instance the swamp thing 150 watt it sounded solid in the III I really dug the WGS speaker the 90 a lot I think it would mix with a speaker like the oranges which is bottom heavy in a good way so I would need a quality speaker for cleans but i def don’t want flimsy like then wgs 65 in my opinion that’s just me i like low end compression and i wna use a little disortion on the gt so the speaker needs to rumble a little any one with More experience with speakers?


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