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Post subject: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:47 am
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So each year EA release games that have certain issues or are missing things that could be fixed easily as dlc.
Yet each year they release the same game again with tiny enhancements.
I can see Fender releasing the GT2 next year and expecting us suckers who bought the first gen to trade in at a loss and buy the GT2 as they will stop supporting the GT. Rinse and repeat.
I do like my GT40 and don't have any issues myself with the amp.
My issues are with fender and the false promises.
Wasn't it a while ago it was stated to hang on to the amps as there are some really good things coming in the firmware updates.
Well that never happened and I imagine I would be really mad now if I was going to sell or trade the amp back then and was hoodwinked by the false promises.
Fender have a lot to learn when it comes to updates and supporting this amp. The big feature of being the first WiFi amp. For what purpose! Hehe.


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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:48 am
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The one thing that becomes crystal clear reading through these forums is that Fender doesn't give a $@!& once you bought their amps your on your own
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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:41 pm
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Being a software developer myself, I'd be curious to know what the makeup of their IT team for the GT is like. I'd guess that its a mercenary band of consultants who come and go with the wind, which would make getting things done difficult. The project leader probably needs to be replaced, given the results that we have experienced so far... and obviously, the testing/quality assurance types are letting glitchy stuff go to release.

I've let my GT200 sit unused for a while, hoping that a forthcoming update will come out that will make things right. A software team shakeup might be an idea...

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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:51 am
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How Fender goes about making these amps is something that I have been curious about as well. From my research, it seems Fender contracts Gold Peak to design and ?build? the Mustang series of amps. I have not been able to find anything out about the software dev team. I would guess that @BigBernhard is right about a
mercenary band of consultants.

Also as a software developer, I have to keep reminding myself that Fender thinks of selling modeling amps in the same way it thinks about selling guitars or old school amps. Build it, fix the issues, move on to the next product. In the digital world, you plan many revisions with LOTS of new features in each revision. I expect that we will not see many more new features, but several fixes. I also expect a GT2 series in 18 months.

I do like my GT 40 and I am glad I bought it. I doubt that I will buy another Mustang in the future. We will have to wait and see. I think the core Mustang GT system could be a great base to build an ecosystem around. SDK kits for amp models and EFX. Downloadable $1each professional backing tracks and Amp Models. (Free community tracks and amps)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Peak
(Gold Peak currently owns and builds the Celestion speaker brand and KEF Speakers / Monitors), and provide a complete OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) turnkey audio products labeled for many brands.


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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:48 pm
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On the topic of design, there was a post on another board by someone claiming to be on the Mustang team, saying that the HW design and SW design/development was all done in-house in Scottsdale.


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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:02 am
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cthulhu wrote:
On the topic of design, there was a post on another board by someone claiming to be on the Mustang team, saying that the HW design and SW design/development was all done in-house in Scottsdale.


To be fair, my info is based on several posts from other boards specifically referencing the Mustang V1 and V2. The assumption / assertion was that Gold Peak also designed and built the GT. Hard to say for sure. The sentimental side of me would like to think that there is Fender DNA in my amp. The technical side knows that all an amp does is inconvenience electronic for a few milliseconds.


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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:14 pm
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bigmalh wrote:
The one thing that becomes crystal clear reading through these forums is that Fender doesn't give a $@!& once you bought their amps your on your own
I have a chocolate fireguard at home it's now called a Brad


I'm guessing the good news on this one is that I'm not sure what "a chocolate fireguard" is.

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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:18 pm
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Not that I'm going to win any arguments here, but just a quick note that the commentary above re: makeup of the team and structure of the manufacturing relationship is all incorrect. In-house team, not consultants. Designed 100% by Fender.

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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:46 pm
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Brad Traweek - Fender wrote:
Not that I'm going to win any arguments here, but just a quick note that the commentary above re: makeup of the team and structure of the manufacturing relationship is all incorrect. In-house team, not consultants. Designed 100% by Fender.


That is good to know that there is REAL Fender DNA in my Fender Amp. It means something to me that these amps are not just outsourced. Anyone can do that and try and make a buck. Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:35 am
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dervishmoose wrote:
That is good to know that there is REAL Fender DNA in my Fender Amp. It means something to me that these amps are not just outsourced. Anyone can do that and try and make a buck. Thanks!


Oh, absolutely! These amps are pretty core to the line and the dynamic hinted at above (i.e., an outsourced provider where Fender simply slaps its logo on the finished product) couldn't be further from the truth.

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Post subject: Re: Fender GT remind me of EA.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:46 pm
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I would want, and fully expect, any corporation, having the capability
and opportunity, to 'outsource', or incorporate completed outsourced
products, into the companies product lines, based on just two things:

Excellence
Profitibility

I don't care if God beams all of Scottsdale to China or Australia,
or if the company name changes to Finder. I want quality products.
The GT40 is, in my budgetary and musical opinion, high enough quality
to purchase, and getting better.

I would be glad to know that Fender Corp in Scottsdale is a place where people
arrive at work early, and stay late, because to them, it's far more than just
a paycheck. But businesses exist first, to generate income and profits.
If that is accomplished in a family/team friendly environment,
all the better.

I outsource around 99% of my food, about 90% of my transportation,
probably 70% of my daily communication comes from other than my mouth.
There is precious little in life that is not outsourced, and even those few things
are more in God's hands, than our own, whether we ponder that situation,
or not.
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