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Post subject: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:01 pm
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I haven't been seeing the usual chatter on when the next big firmware update will be and what can we expect, its been a LONG time since we have seen features and tone and functionality update come up. I know that the android update was a big one that was needed desperately, but I don't this it was worthy of calling an update just more of a mandatory part of the amp. I haven't seen many posts from Brad who usually tells us every now an again whats happening an when to expect updates anyone got any inside news they wna share?!PPPPPLLLLZZZZZZZZ


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:07 am
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They just did and i'm downloading it now. Doesn't look like they did anything i care about tho unless they fixed what doesnt work right, and there are plenty of them unmentioned so i doubt it. Still crossing my fingers to.

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there are a few fixes so far i've noticed. One i asked for when talking to a rep....the plexi model was so low in volume that with it's preset volume on 10 it was as loud as most models on 1-2:00. Thats been fixed, which is odd because when i told them they tried it and told me theres no obvious difference and they said they didn't consider it a problem. Now i can use that model which i like. Before it was so low it might cut it in a band mix with the master knob on 10.

They fixed the cut control on the vox as they mention in the notes, but now the vox sounds wierd. I also noted that to turn the cut from 0 to 10 takes.....get this...50 turns of the data knob ! And when i say turns i mean turning it as far as i can with each twist. The gig would be over by the time i adjusted it ! So with that and the wierd sound, now that model may be unusable for me, tho i need to further mess with it.

Another fix i'm am very happy about is the data wheel both when saving a preset to another location and just scrolling thru presets. Before it was so touchy scrolling thru presets you could try and go from say slot 1 to 1 5 and end up going to 25 ! Then if you went slow enough for that to not happen it took a week to get to the slot you wanted. Now it;s predictable with correct speed and acceleration. And when saving to another location they fixed that too so theres no longer a wall between 0 and 200. If you want to save from say 1 to 200 it's now a single slot move instead of having to scroll thru 200 presets to go one slot distance. But there were a ton of bad scrolling speed issues in various model's settings and not sure if those have been fixed. Probably not since the vox models cut takes 50 LONG turns to go from one end of it's throw to the other.

Tuner is still the worse tuner i have ever used. Thats a big one for me. I was going to wait till this update to decide whether to but a tuner for my pedal board. That'll be another $50 along with swapping that horrid speaker, and if this keeps up i may as well go boutique !

So while i can't assess this update till I've had more time with it, so far i'd give it a 4 out of 10. Not real happy, but happiER. Biggest problem i have are the buggy footswitch and EXP1 both of which are still screwed in more ways than i care to list. And i fear there will be no fix because fender doesn't seem to think there are issues there. Funny thing is, i had the MIII for 5 years and theres never been a single bug with either the 4 button switch or EXP1, and these are the same ones i was using with that amp.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:11 pm
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Serious problems with Setlists! The first few times I tried the Setlist menu item, nothing happened. I reinstalled the update with the middle button held down. Now, my setlists are back but I can't select any of the items in it. Pushing the select button does nothing! Fail.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:57 pm
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yeah man I really want to say we have only really gotten one really solid firmware update and that's about it since the thing came out. I haven't seen Brad post much or see people ask as much so its worrying me that this is all we are guna get for awhile, small updates but nothing like we hoped. I hope I am wrong on this matter an they are still working on something big for it, but my hoped are fading.......


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:09 pm
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Data speed is even worse than i thought in amp settings. I said the vox took 50 long turns of the data wheel to get the vox cut from one end to the other. Well, all models bias setting is the same, actually worse. Took SIXTY ONE long turns of the data wheel to go from +50% to -50%. Long turns meaning as far as my fingers would allow in one turn. You have got to be effing kidding me ! They fix some things then other things get worse. Does fender even bother to test the amp after then make these changes ? I'm about sick of this amp.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:26 pm
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I hate to say it but I actually think I am about done with the amp, after talking with a fender rep today I had him almost admitting that a mustang gt V2 is coming eventually. That is my pure speculation but the way he phrased his answers idk. I asked can we expect big changes through firmware in the next 6 months and hes was saying its more likely that there will be small tweeks nothing major. Makes me wonder if they will are already working on the next version, I think they intended on this one being the "one" but botched it. I love the gt I was its biggest fan and still am some what. I wanted to put a new speaker in and then Im buying and EQ pedal to help with things I just don't know. I need an ipad to use on stage to help control all the features and then add is speaker swap this amp "gt100" jumps into the $700 range, ill be honest I cant find an amp that I want tho the mustang ruined me in ways haha. Unless I was rich but im a budget musician I want the mustang amp to be able to last me with live gigs at bars and decent venues but I just dk if the updates will keep coming and will this thing get left in the dust and then we sit there with nothing but an expensive practice amp. I truly want to believe fender is still trying to make this one amazing I just think there is only so much you can do through firmware, But with that being said the diversity of the mustang has made me love having the fender pathes an then going to like the orange amp patch, I want something with fender cleans and distortion for blues but I also want something more punchy right below metal I love the orange amps but their cleans cant even compare to the mustang GT let alone any other fender. So here I sit stuck on what direction to take.

Swap speakers trust the updates vs trading it in getting something else vs keeping it as is and waiting hoping for the best. The new speaker option seems to be making a lot of people happy, but if fender one day quits updating the stang gt and then we have to restore to factory settings wont that make the amp go back in sound as well cuz I feel through the updates the sound has gotten a little better each time. I worry about fender doing the apple business plan, leaving you with a device you cant update forcing you to buy new ones every so often! gggrrrrrrrr!!!!!! If I had the money I would run an A/B pedal have a fender twin reverb deluxe and then an orange combo for my heavier needs fender amps almost get enough punch but not quite.

Any suggestions on amps that can give me the fender cleans with the slight overdrive then the ability to get a real tight chunky distortion channel? like distortion sound a level below metal. Idk if fender has that gritty of an amp as its not really their thing. But I could be wrong.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:31 pm
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I also had a rep as much as admit to me a V2 is likely, tho not soon of course. But that was a couple months ago. i think they need hardware changes like a second footswitch jack to allow a couple switches like the old one. And It's likely some of the other issues and lack of needed features that can't be fixed with firmware. I will likely buy one assuming the changes are enough to warrant it, but i think fender owes us something for this abomination. I think fender really screwed this amp up, but the one thing they did well was the modeling. But it's like putting a ferarri engine in a '65 volkswagen bug.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:09 am
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As someone who was very critical of Fender for the release of a product not fully developed, this update seems to me, to get near where we should have started from.
I always was, and remain happy with the tones available.
The speaker upgrade (WGS ET65.... still waiting on the ET90) was a major improvement. Very pleased with this.
Now the android app is working fine (for me).
It now does what Fender said it would.
So really, I am now very pleased with the unit.
It's been a bit of a journey though!


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:11 am
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[quote="oczad]They fixed the cut control on the vox as they mention in the notes, but now the vox sounds wierd.[/quote]

I haven't noticed anything odd happening to the sound of the Vox, but did you notice if the Bright Switch control does anything? Mine still doesn't as far as I can tell...


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:40 am
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Pigletboy wrote:
[quote="oczad]They fixed the cut control on the vox as they mention in the notes, but now the vox sounds wierd.[/quote]

I haven't noticed anything odd happening to the sound of the Vox, but did you notice if the Bright Switch control does anything? Mine still doesn't as far as I can tell...[/quote]


Yes, I noticed that too.


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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:25 am
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Thanks for the reply, not just mine then! :?
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Post subject: Re: okay seriously, update soon?
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:28 pm
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This is what scares me, the rep stumbled all over his words when I mentioned only so much will be fixable through firmware and a GTv2 is in the wings, but really what would they do to make it so much better the software as far as sound wise is great I think I can see it either being just a head, or just the same kind of amp better speaker and some more options an features. Which I prob will get suckered into cause when you are a musician on a budget and doing covers in mostly bars and some bigger venues and outside "through PA of course" the versatility is to much to pass on. It would be so expensive to get the real amps I want, due to the mustang III and on ive been spoiled on features and different tones so now I love it, going from fender cleans and ts9 overdrive to like an orange amp, in reality those amps would set you back $2000 plus right there " like a twin reverb and a combo orange amp"

So Im kind of stuck on what to do, I want to keep the Gt but it seems like to be a real solid gigging amp it needs to the speaker upgrade, idk if I want to through money into it if the V2 will be out soon, but the problem is that wont be for awhile atleast, so its a matter of do I want to swap the speaker, or trade it in and get something else, problem is what amp can give me fender cleans and a lighter Ts9 distortion then also have that orange amp punch. I really wonder how much the speaker really changes the sound, if its that big of and improvement id keep the gt and just deal cause I do love the amps sound and versatility, just cant figure out if the speaker upgrade is a game changer


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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:12 am
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There's another firmware update dated 18th September, I noticed that it fixes the Vox Cut scrolling speed and the bias scrolling speed issues!
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:36 pm
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I'm not deeply clear on what specifically this thread is asking for but just to pipe in for a moment to squash one particular bit of speculation I see here: namely, speculation about a "V2" of the amp is erroneous. I mean, it certainly stands to basic reason that at some point in the distant future a new version of the amp might be released - that's how amplifier manufacturers stay in business, after all. :D But, we're talking a good ways down the road here. No active efforts or thought is in motion around same.

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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:42 pm
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oczad wrote:

EDIT:
there are a few fixes so far i've noticed. One i asked for when talking to a rep....the plexi model was so low in volume that with it's preset volume on 10 it was as loud as most models on 1-2:00. Thats been fixed, which is odd because when i told them they tried it and told me theres no obvious difference and they said they didn't consider it a problem. Now i can use that model which i like. Before it was so low it might cut it in a band mix with the master knob on 10.

They fixed the cut control on the vox as they mention in the notes, but now the vox sounds wierd. I also noted that to turn the cut from 0 to 10 takes.....get this...50 turns of the data knob ! And when i say turns i mean turning it as far as i can with each twist. The gig would be over by the time i adjusted it ! So with that and the wierd sound, now that model may be unusable for me, tho i need to further mess with it.

Another fix i'm am very happy about is the data wheel both when saving a preset to another location and just scrolling thru presets. Before it was so touchy scrolling thru presets you could try and go from say slot 1 to 1 5 and end up going to 25 ! Then if you went slow enough for that to not happen it took a week to get to the slot you wanted. Now it;s predictable with correct speed and acceleration. And when saving to another location they fixed that too so theres no longer a wall between 0 and 200. If you want to save from say 1 to 200 it's now a single slot move instead of having to scroll thru 200 presets to go one slot distance. But there were a ton of bad scrolling speed issues in various model's settings and not sure if those have been fixed. Probably not since the vox models cut takes 50 LONG turns to go from one end of it's throw to the other.

Tuner is still the worse tuner i have ever used. Thats a big one for me. I was going to wait till this update to decide whether to but a tuner for my pedal board. That'll be another $50 along with swapping that horrid speaker, and if this keeps up i may as well go boutique !

So while i can't assess this update till I've had more time with it, so far i'd give it a 4 out of 10. Not real happy, but happiER. Biggest problem i have are the buggy footswitch and EXP1 both of which are still screwed in more ways than i care to list. And i fear there will be no fix because fender doesn't seem to think there are issues there. Funny thing is, i had the MIII for 5 years and theres never been a single bug with either the 4 button switch or EXP1, and these are the same ones i was using with that amp.



wow, sounds like they got a bunch of coders who don't have a clue what they are doing


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