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Post subject: footpedal extensions midi footpedal? other heads?
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:57 pm
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so does anyone know if there are ways to get a midi footpedal with more switches to map to the mustang the tone app cant be trusted in a live gig so I was wondering how and if anyone has figured out how to have access to all the effects at once that would make this amp so much more desirable or the app.worked perfect and could work on pc devices I'm getting antsy trying to decide to keep waiting on fender an updates to open things up or to finally give in get somethbg else

Also does anyone know if its possible to run for example.an orange head unit to the cab of the stang ?


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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:54 pm
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Cbryand88 wrote:
so does anyone know if there are ways to get a midi footpedal with more switches to map to the mustang the tone app cant be trusted in a live gig so I was wondering how and if anyone has figured out how to have access to all the effects at once that would make this amp so much more desirable or the app.worked perfect and could work on pc devices I'm getting antsy trying to decide to keep waiting on fender an updates to open things up or to finally give in get somethbg else


The Mustangs have no concept of MIDI, so you won't be able to do that. It is unlikely that Tone will ever be ported to "PC" devices. Haven't you heard, they are yesterday's news.

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Also does anyone know if its possible to run for example.an orange head unit to the cab of the stang ?


Given that the Mustang speaker is 4 ohms and if you could change the Orange amp to drive into 4 ohms, yes, you could do that. If it's a valve amp, it is more likely to want 8 or 16 ohms. You would need to check the transformer taps.


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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:12 pm
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No one had done this with the GT and strat83 mayb be right., But i know someone figured out how with the old mustang and theres a website somewhere that explains how and all. But the GT may not be capable. If it is it will surely be done by someone if not the guy who figured it out for the old stang.


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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:21 pm
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HHHHHMmmm so do you think getting an orange amp head like one of the smaller ones would help get some more vintage distortion sound. I don't think the amp does bad at the distortion, I am just curious if this would work and maybe help the amp so to speak. Im kinda being hard to please cause like many others, I am looking for a truly versatile amp, or basically I want that true orange amp distortion but I cant live without those fender cleans I have a ts9 that goes great with the fender twin setting like truly sounds great. I would just like to get a more genuine distortion out of this.


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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:01 am
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The old Mustang works with the PrimovaSound MIDX-20

plan to test with Mustang GT -
http://www.primovasound.com/midx_20.html


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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:01 pm
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Elantric wrote:
The old Mustang works with the PrimovaSound MIDX-20

plan to test with Mustang GT -
http://www.primovasound.com/midx_20.html


But, how the hell do you map the MIDI messages to the Mustang's internal system? That is not explained.


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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:00 pm
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Maybe u can find the answer here... https://github.com/snhirsch/mustang-midi-bridge


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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:08 pm
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oczad wrote:
Maybe u can find the answer here... https://github.com/snhirsch/mustang-midi-bridge



That and the Prinova web site tells me that Fender uses a proprietary MIDI protocol but they offer a little box to do the USB to MIDI conversion. It says 'in stock' but, there are no pricing, ordering or contact details or I might get one, I have a V2 also and lots of MIDI gear, but there is no mention of Mustang GT support.


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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:41 pm
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There isn't, it's just for the V1/2. But the guy said he might see if he can implement it on the GT at some point if he gets access to one and at least one guy at TGP said he knew code at one time and will see what he can do. But it worked with the old amp so who knows. Maybe a possibility and at some point it will happen. I'm not too worried, as i figured out how to get what i need from the stock switching arrangement.


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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:31 am
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Any other ideas about footpedal extensions, MIDI Bridge, etc...?


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:49 am
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It seems like any workable solution is either (a) too expensive or (b) too sloppy. The PrimovaSound solution seems to have a checkmark in both categories. IMO , you are stuck with Fender's compatible pedals because they wanted it that way.


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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:18 pm
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A 'GT-Floor' model would be a hot seller, used 'Fender Floor'
can sometimes be found on ebay, or GC used items list.

The beancounter has no clothes.


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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:18 am
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I don't understand why they dropped the Mustang Floor. It sure seemed like it was selling well. My guess is they (Fender) want to sell you ALL the hardware for your rig. So just like they made their pedals proprietary so you wouldn't but your pedal elsewhere, they stopped selling preamps that didn't have speakers and a power amp attached. More money for them.


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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:05 pm
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The Floor came out after the Mustang line was well established,
and appeals to those who will generally go straight to
a house PA system, no amps needed, those seeking to streamline their gear collection,
first time pedal purchasers, and smart people who valued the models inside
the Floor, and the versatility of th i/o onboard

Did Fenders naked beancounters see or suspect eroding sales
of their expensive tube amps and related products?
Could be, but if a competitor can hit that
range of features and price-point, Fender better hope their customer's
label loyalty means more than competing gear with superior value.
Myself, I want maximum return for each gear dollar spent,
and it's been ages since I've warn a corporate T-shirt.
Cheers


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Post subject: Re: footpedal extensions midi footpedal? other heads?
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:15 am
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guildorf wrote:
The Floor came out after the Mustang line was well established, and appeals to those who will generally go straight to a house PA system, no amps needed, those seeking to streamline their gear collection, first time pedal purchasers, and smart people who valued the models inside the Floor, and the versatility of th i/o onboard

It was actually a little more complicated than that. The v1 mustang amps (Mustang III, Mustang IV and Mustang V) had a hardware problem that caused some unwanted noise (aka “fizz”). And Fender wasn’t taking the amps back, so nobody wanted to get stuck with a “fizzy” sounding combo amp. But some people still wanted those amp models and effects in a powerful combo amp (I know I would never rely on plugging in to the house PA).

So I remember a lot of users discussing what cheap (non-Fender) solid state amp would go well with the Mustang Floor. I don’t think it was eroding the tube amp market, I think it was killing the rest of the Mustang v1 line.

So they discontinued the Mustang floor right before releasing the v2 mustang line. How much you want to bet they sold a few more combo amps that time around? Not to mention the optional EXP-1 is not needed if you had the Floor. Mo money mo money mo money. :mrgreen:


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