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Post subject: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:58 pm
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There are versions of Android for computers

http://www.androidauthority.com/install ... pc-668643/

Phoenix for 32bit, RemixOS for 64 bit

Perhaps Tone could be smartened up a bit to run on those,
and take advantage of the good file management functions?
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:03 pm
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Along that line of thought, where is the person(s) who coded Fuse?
Were they Fender employees, or outside contractors?
Are they involved with coding Tone?
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:37 pm
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You could also pick up an inexpensive Chromebook or dual boot into Chromium OS. Most of the newer Chromebooks have the ability to run Android apps natively now.

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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:04 pm
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I suppose i'd have to get a bluetooth dongle or such then jump thru hoops trying to make it work. Probably ain't gonna happen.


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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:50 am
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I managed to install Android on my Mac using Parallels Desktop but it is only version 4 and the Tone app won't load. I also have an Android tablet, but that too is stuck on 4.4.


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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:51 am
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/26 ... right-now/

This from April 28 2017, and looks like google, chromebooks. and android 7.1
are not exactly ducks in a row. Yet. But it looks like 7.1 is coming, perhaps months from now,
but will offer resizing for apps. I hope Fender dev managers are, or will be,
in contact with the appropriate folks from Samsung/Google.

I'd still prefer confirmation of a Mac/PC editor, yay or nay,
rather than buying a tablet, phone, or other device,
and having it superceded by a proper software solution.

If a mac/pc editor is never coming from Fender, other coders might jump in.
Knowledge inpires freedom. Indecision inspires very little,
especially from the wallet.

I can imagine a special edition chromebook booting into
a really rock-solid Tone, wiith all available community presets
inside a decent filemanager, would sell nicely,
especially if bundled with an amp as a turnkey product.

Someone at Samsung must have a guitar...
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:07 am
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http://www.networkworld.com/article/307 ... iners.html

This link is from the above linked article. It mentions right away
that Chromebooks are out-selling Macs, significant, but not surprising
from a cost standpoint alone. And some more related links are at
this page.
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:51 am
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guildorf wrote:
Along that line of thought, where is the person(s) who coded Fuse?
Were they Fender employees, or outside contractors?
Are they involved with coding Tone?

A few years back, there was a resume posted from a lady who said her former employee was Fender, and she was responsible for moving Fender's codebase and development to Silverlight and creating FUSE. If she was honest about that, it was an in-house job, and the original perpetrator is no longer with the company.

GT and Tone are created by Fender Digital, which seems to be mostly the Irish group Sonic Ladder (earlier known as Riffstation), which they acquired a while ago, with some Fender management on top. This appears to be their first venture into embedded software, and its unique challenges.
I will venture a guess that the board is developed by outside resources, and possibly most of the firmware too.


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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:07 pm
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https://discourse.anbox.io/t/what-happe ... release/22

This is from the android on linux project, 'anbox', it has quite a few links
to mainstream articles in the linux community, hailing the
potential of running android apps on linux computers.

As an aside, the Harrison Mixbus linux version, is a very affordable
recording/mastering/plugin-hosting daw, with redbook support.
$80 is dirt cheap considering their default grouping of plugins
and settings come from a premier console provider.
There are also mac and win versions available, the license
provides all three installers, as desired. The Mustangs are
properly detected in linux, and available in connections gui's
like qjackctl, patchage, and carla, as an input device.
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:18 pm
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arth1 wrote:
guildorf wrote:
Along that line of thought, where is the person(s) who coded Fuse?
Were they Fender employees, or outside contractors?
Are they involved with coding Tone?

A few years back, there was a resume posted from a lady who said her former employee was Fender, and she was responsible for moving Fender's codebase and development to Silverlight and creating FUSE. If she was honest about that, it was an in-house job, and the original perpetrator is no longer with the company.

GT and Tone are created by Fender Digital, which seems to be mostly the Irish group Sonic Ladder (earlier known as Riffstation), which they acquired a while ago, with some Fender management on top. This appears to be their first venture into embedded software, and its unique challenges.
I will venture a guess that the board is developed by outside resources, and possibly most of the firmware too.

Thanks for the info. The firmware updating hasn't had many issues reported,
so that's half the battle. If after the next preset-handling-extravaganza update,
we can get even quarterly firmware updates,
solving user issues/requests, the GT future will remain bright.
I'll look up Riffstation and Sonic Ladder.
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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:34 pm
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Riffstation is a very poor piece of work. I had the trial version. It is supposed to identify the chords from any song fed into it but is totally hopeless in that respect. It only knows the most basic chords and doesn't even identify those correctly. I have several programs that are supposed to do this but none of them are accurate. Riffstation is easily the worst.


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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:38 pm
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Unless Fender was already in an arrangement with Sonic Ladder a couple of years ago, I doubt that SL was involved in the Mustang GT work; two years is about the right timeline for the firmware work for something like the GT. I suspect that Fender went to a Chinese or Korean outfit for the board design and device drivers, but did most of the firmware in-house, at least to the detailed software requirements level; actual coding and testing may be offshore (India?). I'll bet that the Tone app is done the same way.

I would certainly be interested to know more about the technical side of the Mustang GTs, like what kind of processors and real-time OS they are using (my bet is Qualcomm ARM SoC and VxWorks RTOS), but I have zero expectations for any info along these lines - I'm just an interested nerd. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Android on Computers: Phoenix and RemixOS
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:59 pm
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cthulhu wrote:
Unless Fender was already in an arrangement with Sonic Ladder a couple of years ago, I doubt that SL was involved in the Mustang GT work; two years is about the right timeline for the firmware work for something like the GT.

As far as I understand Fender's press release, they acquired them a couple of years ago, but kept it under wraps until now.

cthulhu wrote:
I suspect that Fender went to a Chinese or Korean outfit for the board design and device drivers, but did most of the firmware in-house

Much of the firmware is likely open source. In which case Fender may have to release those parts, depending on the license. The app on top of the OS is likely Fender, but that's bound to be the smallest part.


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