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Post subject: Is there a way to back up my presets without the app?
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:33 am
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I only ask because the apps just won't work for me and if this is the case if the amp should go down for whatever reason I'll lose all that time I spent setting the amp up so I ask is there anyway to backup your own presets or whole amp outside the amp without the app? The manual only talks about loading cloud presets not saving your own to the cloud. Thanks


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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:47 am
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Not that I am aware of. The GT also needs a way to do a full back-up of all your presets (std & custom) with the ability to restore them in the order you may have modded them.


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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:35 pm
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I agree. I have started a Tips & Help thread. Will you all please participate in this thread and hopefully we can get a single thread with questions and answers that I would be happy to try and put together something we could possibly make into a 'sticky' for all users.


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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:49 pm
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Krunch wrote:
I agree. I have started a Tips & Help thread. Will you all please participate in this thread and hopefully we can get a single thread with questions and answers that I would be happy to try and put together something we could possibly make into a 'sticky' for all users.


I like this Tips & Help thread idea and certainly happy to make something "sticky" if it gets enough meat to it.

Meanwhile, I'll pass along this commentary re: backing up presets to the crew here.

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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 6:20 pm
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Thanks Brad, your help is welcomed and appreciated. I really like this new amp and hope with Fender's help we can make it even better. I have read posts that people will take their laptops with them to gigs just in case the amp, which is essentially a computer now, glitches or flips out, so to speak, can easily reload their performance presets. So I see a need for these features. I'm not totally against a iOS backup option. I would just like to have one.

Migrating from an older amp, i.e. Mustang v2, to the GT would be sweet though. I have many hours vested in these v2 presets and would love to take them with me into the future, but I understand that's not always possible when trying to move on. Backups are however essential. And, if possible in a future firmware update, the ability to delete a preset via the amp would be nice too.

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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:53 pm
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Krunch - quick question for you. In your opinion, how do your MIII presets sound vs the same presets on your GT? Same, similar or different? Also, which version GT amp do you have.

Just curious, because it seems to me there is quite a bit of difference in tone between my MIII v2 and my GT100.


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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:51 pm
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Gymbow wrote:
Krunch - quick question for you. In your opinion, how do your MIII presets sound vs the same presets on your GT? Same, similar or different? Also, which version GT amp do you have.

Just curious, because it seems to me there is quite a bit of difference in tone between my MIII v2 and my GT100.

While you wait for his answer i'd like to throw my opinion into the ring. I have the GT100 and the MIII v2. My GT hs a bug that i talked to a fender rep about and it was the first they heard of it so they asked me to send it to them so they can study it and know how to deal with any future issues of its kind. Anyways, the point is i'm now without the GT for a week or 2 till they send me a new one and i therefore have only the MIII to play. I was going to sell it but i'll hang onto it till i get a GT back then sell it. Anyways, the whole point i'm getting at is i had the GT around 2 weeks and have now been forced to use the MIII again so i'm really getting a feel for what the difference is more than ever. And it;s sooooo obvious to me the GT is superior sounding. I knew what the difference was right off the bat when i got the GT but this experience having to use the MIII again really sealed that feeling about the difference. And it's a difference that was exactly what i was hoping for when i got the GT. Heres what it is IMO. I love the MIII but theres always been one thing that bothered me about it. The high end is the issue. The frequency region that accounts for that sizzle and chime in a good tube amp isn't there. It's almost like you took an EQ and put it in the effects loop and took every slider from say 3k on up and pulled them all the way down. This creates a twofold problem. First, you miss that glassy chime and sizzle. Second, because thats missing, in order to get enough highs to cut thru and to keep from sounding like mud or too middy you adjust the highs in the amp up as much as needed to get any kind of clarity. In doing so you're basically turning up the hi mids and lowest treble region, frequencies that cause a harsh brittle tone when theres too much of em. At low home volumes it;s not as much of an issue, as those frequencies can be beneficial at very low volumes to keep it from sounding too smooth and losing cut and punch. It's not ideal but it;s sorta helpful in that way even if it doesn't allow really sweet tone. The real problem comes when you start to turn it up. then it gets harsher and brittle and the overall tone changes radically. It may happen more or less depending on how you use the amp. For me it was really bad. But i found a way to sweeten it a lot at stage volume. I used a EQ in the loop and boosted the very high frequencies but lowered the amp;s brightness by choosing a dark cab. the result was that it attenuated those nasty hi mids and added those chimey sizzly trebles and the difference was great.

Anyways, the GT doesn't have that issue. It has a extended high end and overal a lot more clarity without the nastiness in the highs and high mids. It's livelier, clearer, more balanced and more alive and realistic. Not to a HUGE degree like nite and day, but enough to be a very worthy upgrade from the MIII. Thats all MY OPINION, so take it for what it's worth. I think it speaks volumes that after playing the GT for a couple weeks, going back to playing the MIII was a real eye opener. As much as i loved that amp, i don't even wanna plug into it now. Every time i do it sounds harsh to me after playing the GT. I'm pretty anal about tone tho, so a lot of players may well hear the difference but not feel it's as big a difference as i do. I can only tell you what MY ears hear, not what yours will.


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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:01 am
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As oczad pointed out, the GT does sound a little clearer to me. I'm not really a high gain player except for lead sometimes. But the cleans I use are nice and sparkling on the GT. I've only had it for a few days so my opinion has yet to be determined completely. I have not USB connected into Logic yet to compare it to some older tracks. I have mostly been trying to reproduce my edited presets for the GT. I'm getting close, but the DSPs in the GT are a little different. The more I use it the better I'm getting closer to what I have been using on the V2 for presets. Some of the clean presets I'm trying to reproduce do sound much brighter. I don't know if that's good or bad yet, but say for instance the '65 Deluxe sounds to bright for my tastes, I swapped the '65's cab for a SS 2x12 which darkens the sound some for me.

To the point - ask me again after I've had more time with the GT.

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:52 pm
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Thanks for your reply & detailed description guys. Using the same downloaded presets or equivalent basic amp model presets between my GT100 and my MIII v2, my GT sounds like the low and mid frequencies are more pronounced while the high end is less harsh, but also less prevalent vs the MIII. Even if I enable the Bright Boost on the GT, it still seems lacking on the high end. It isn't as if the GT sounds bad, it just isn't as bright as what I hear in the MIII.

I'm beginning to wonder if I may have a poor quality speaker in my unit.


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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:07 pm
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Gymbow wrote:
Thanks for your reply & detailed description guys. Using the same downloaded presets or equivalent basic amp model presets between my GT100 and my MIII v2, my GT sounds like the low and mid frequencies are more pronounced while the high end is less harsh, but also less prevalent vs the MIII. Even if I enable the Bright Boost on the GT, it still seems lacking on the high end. It isn't as if the GT sounds bad, it just isn't as bright as what I hear in the MIII.

I'm beginning to wonder if I may have a poor quality speaker in my unit.


See the bold type? Thats probably your issue right there. the models are in most cases if not all, VERY different. And a lot of the models defaut cabs are very middy/boxy sounding. The first thing you need to do is start tailoring your own sounds, and the VERY first thing i'd do is any model you use is go directly to the cab sims and select the 412GB cab. It's a very open sounding a neutral cab and you will be blown away by the difference using that cab compared to some of the boxy/middy/ones i mentioned, and those are used on a lot of models. If after that you still feel the same about the old mustang vs the GT, you have a defective amp. No 2 ways about it. My GT is much clearer and has and extended high end compared to the old mustang that is by comparison exactly what you said about the GT. You put the bright boost on my presets and it'll cut your head off.


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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:27 pm
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I'd also feel much happier if I could back up my custom tones to a PC or USB stick. I don't know if there's any ability to backup tones in the app as I have an Android phone and the Android app has about zero functionality currently, as far as I can see.


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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 4:03 pm
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oczad - I'm digging the 4x12gb too.

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Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:36 pm
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oczad wrote:
Gymbow wrote:
Thanks for your reply & detailed description guys. Using the same downloaded presets or equivalent basic amp model presets between my GT100 and my MIII v2, my GT sounds like the low and mid frequencies are more pronounced while the high end is less harsh, but also less prevalent vs the MIII. Even if I enable the Bright Boost on the GT, it still seems lacking on the high end. It isn't as if the GT sounds bad, it just isn't as bright as what I hear in the MIII.

I'm beginning to wonder if I may have a poor quality speaker in my unit.


See the bold type? Thats probably your issue right there. the models are in most cases if not all, VERY different. And a lot of the models defaut cabs are very middy/boxy sounding. The first thing you need to do is start tailoring your own sounds, and the VERY first thing i'd do is any model you use is go directly to the cab sims and select the 412GB cab. It's a very open sounding a neutral cab and you will be blown away by the difference using that cab compared to some of the boxy/middy/ones i mentioned, and those are used on a lot of models. If after that you still feel the same about the old mustang vs the GT, you have a defective amp. No 2 ways about it. My GT is much clearer and has and extended high end compared to the old mustang that is by comparison exactly what you said about the GT. You put the bright boost on my presets and it'll cut your head off.


Using downloaded presets from Fender site should yield the same settings in both amps, correct? At least I think they should. But I still have the tonal issues I described. So I think this indicates an issue with my GT. Do you concur?


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