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Post subject: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:16 pm
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Hello, ladies and gents. Just a bit of background, I'm pretty proficient at playing but not so good at guitar maintenance, such as adjusting the truss rod and saddles. String changes I have down! But I have a protection plan at my local music store that includes free string changes (minus the cost of strings) and truss rod adjustments. I went and had these things done to save myself the trouble of doing them. Unfortunately, ever since then the bottom strings, mostly E and A, have been buzzing when open, and REALLY buzzing when fretted. Can anyone guide me through the process to correct this, preferably without having to change strings. Saves me an hour on the road. Thanks in advance for the help!


By the way, its a 2013 or 14 MiM Strat.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:15 pm
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You should know how to take some mesurements .

1- Neck curve to see if neck curve is right and if it need truss rod adjustment or not

2- Strings action ; good or not ?

All of these for your playing habits

If these are good , you must see a qualified luthier


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:53 pm
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I've determined that the neck is just a bit too flat. Action was fine. What is the best way to adjust the truss rod to give it a bit more curvature?


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:18 pm
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Got it all resolved. Had to tighten the truss rod but I got it.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:41 am
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cumminb wrote:
I've determined that the neck is just a bit too flat. Action was fine. What is the best way to adjust the truss rod to give it a bit more curvature?



More curve = loosened truss rod , not thighten ! :(

You are better to learn carefully how truss rod work before damage your neck .


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:06 am
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I agree with st52; it's best you learn what to do. Guessing, accompanied by little experience, usually just gets you in more trouble...

Start by reading the Strat SetUp Guide
Then get a set of feeler gauges, and measure your current setup before you do any changes.

That "protection plan" the store offers doesn't seem to be very trustworthy, maybe use another luthier the next time.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:04 pm
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Well, I didn't just do it blind. I researched what I already knew to be the problem, watched an instructional video and fixed the problem. The buzz is gone and my action raised. I'm not a total newb, gentlemen


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:38 am
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No intentions to doubt anyone's skill levels - it's impossible to evaluate on the forum basis. You wrote "not so good at guitar maintenance", and that was my starting point...

But: glad it's now OK.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:30 am
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cumminb wrote:
Well, I didn't just do it blind. I researched what I already knew to be the problem, watched an instructional video and fixed the problem. The buzz is gone and my action raised. I'm not a total newb, gentlemen



You can't give more curve to your neck with tightened truss rod nut .

What is wrong ?


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:21 am
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As the Strat setup guide said, if the neck is too flat turn the nut counter clockwise to allow the strings to take more tension. I did that and voila problem fix. Perhaps that is loosening the truss rod but I just assumed that because of the old righty, tightly, lefty, loosey that that tightened the truss rod. Maybe, I was thinking about it wrong because the wrench is going right but the truss is going left. This might all the a confusion in matter of perspective. I apologize for the confusion.

And about what was said earlier about the protection plan, the store is an authorized Fender dealer that offers full replacement or repair for any damage for 4 years, for only 80 dollars. Thats the main reason I have it. And you're right about the people not being reputable. The guitar guy was gone that day and the adjust was done by a sales associate. Plus, the guitar guy that sold me the guitar, that I trusted very much, has left the company. its going down hill a bit, but it should be fine.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:04 am
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cumminb wrote:
As the Strat setup guide said, if the neck is too flat turn the nut counter clockwise to allow the strings to take more tension.

Strings will pull the neck to give it more curve when truss rod is loosened. We talk about strings tension not truss rod tension .
You must keep strings in tune all the time .
Loosened truss rod should be made 1/8 turn and wait many hours before another 1/8 turn . Neck may move very very slowly. I often see waiting one day .
If you work to fast, the neck will have too much curve after one day or more.
Always use allen wrench which fit tight in truss rod nut , loose wrench will damage truss rod ($$$ )


I did that and voila problem fix. Perhaps that is loosening the truss rod but I just assumed that because of the old righty, tightly, lefty, loosey that that tightened the truss rod. Maybe, I was thinking about it wrong because the wrench is going right but the truss is going left. This might all the a confusion in matter of perspective. I apologize for the confusion.

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For any kind of nut and bolt , couter clockwise is always loosening / removing tension .

Except on some electric tools , but that is another forum :lol:

There is a lot of videos or informations on Google " How truss rod work "


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:06 pm
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Cumminb, you did good, everyone would do well by learning to do truss rod adjustments and saddle adjustrments as these things change with the weather, string changes etc. The Fender guides are very good and simple to understand. Great job! :D

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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:12 am
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Lefty = loosey = more curve or sag relief
Righty = tighty = straight/ flatter neck

Riiight????


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:41 am
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Let's forget all about tighter/looser. Seems to cause misunderstandings with string tension, truss rod tension etc; and then there are the dual actions, Bi-Flex™'s and all.

I try to put it as simple as possible:
Looking from that end of the truss rod where you insert your appropriate tool,
counter-clockwise = more relief = more curve in the neck,
clockwise = less relief = straighter neck
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For the digital watch users, who have never seen Mickey Mouse's hands move:
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One more important thing: before one adjusts the truss rod, one should diagnose the guitar. Random adjustments only occasionally lead to good results, and often they just make problems worse.


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Post subject: Re: Fret buzz on a 6 month old guitar and how to correct it
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:16 pm
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Going on about fret buzz, how many times can frets be redressed or recrowned before they need to be swapped out. I read somewhere it was two or three times, is that correct?


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