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Post subject: Modal Harmony
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:01 am
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What is a nice books to learn a modal harmony?


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 pm
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coprozar, here is a link

http://hubguitar.com/music-theory/understanding-modal-harmony

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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:20 am
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I want to study more deeply the Music Theory because didn't learn to play the guitar.


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:44 am
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Please pardon my french, Qu'est-ce que...?

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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:25 am
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It is a wrong answer.


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:29 am
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I not found Lydian Chromatic Concept in the web, but I think the modal modes must be have a musical context, not only a scales for improving a guitar technique.


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:34 am
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You can use the following to cheat a little:

Take a G Major scale. Play it starting on the 3rd fret of the lowest string.

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Here are the names of the modes and their notes, assuming Ionian is key of G:

I Ionian (G A B C D E F# G)
II Dorian (A B C D E F# G A)
III Phrygian (B C D E F# G A B)
IV Lydian (C D E F# G A B C)
V Mixolydian (D E F# G A B C D)
VI Aeolian (E F# G A B C D E)
VII Locrian (F# G A B C D E F#)

Spot the pattern above? Same exact notes for all these scales. Different starting note. But what does this mean?

It means you have to listen to the chord progression to choose the appropriate scale. Does the chord progression "center" around the 3rd scale degree? Then try playing B Phrygian. Does the chord progression "center" around the 6th scale degree? Then try playing E Aeolian (AKA E minor).

Most of us are already familiar with 2 of the modes:

Ionian = Major
Aeolian = Minor

The main important takeaway here though is this - look at the scales. Same exact notes. That means it will be the same exact scale shape on a guitar neck for all these scales. One way to go: learn the scale shapes and follow your ears.

Disclaimer: Theory is NOT my thing. I'm about 95% "following my ears". Some of the above might be misguided. Let's see what other forum members have to say about the above. There are some really good musicians on the forum. I consider myself a "player".


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:59 pm
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Spot the pattern above? Same exact notes for all these scales. Different starting note. But what does this mean?


Each pattern has a vertical interpretation and chords with a functional system.

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It means you have to listen to the chord progression to choose the appropriate scale.


Ok, what scale for this progression Am F C G ?


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:22 am
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This is where I get a little fuzzy and follow my ear. I was never very good at figuring this out with theory. I would think the chords would be:

I C Major
ii D Minor
iii E Minor
IV F Major
V G Major
vi A Minor
vii B Diminished (or half diminished)

So the progression is: vii IV I V

Just thinking those chords in my head (don't have a guitar handy right now) my ear goes to the vii as the "center" chord of the progression. So my guess is A minor. But again, I'm bad at this part. Hopefully someone who is good with theory will chime in here.


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:37 am
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Scale(s) for this progression is C Ionian or (and) A Aeolian, A Harmonic minor, and may be a G Mixolydian.

I think that modal harmony not exist in music, it is bullshit.

And I close a theme with my question.


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Post subject: Re: Modal Harmony
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:15 pm
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This has a lot of great information:



Even though I'm a bass player I have used some of the chordal concepts from this video on bass.

C/S,
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