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Post subject: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:46 am
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I have a brand new CD60SCE. The fretboard and bridge are rosewood, looks to be unfinished. It's not lacquered like they are on my classical guitar. Anyway I am wondering if I can use lemon oil on the body and back of the neck and guitar honey on the fretboard and bridge. Thank you.


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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:15 pm
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Congratulations PTDixieGal ! Enjoy your new guitar! You're plan sounds good, we love photos and videos. Welcome to the Forum!

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:52 pm
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Yes, but don't over-do it.
The biggest mistake people make is saturating the wood with lemon oil and other treatments.
Once or twice a year at the most. Dampen a clean towel, apply, then wipe the excess.
There is no need to "soak" it.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:01 pm
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PTDixieGal wrote:
lemon oil on the body and back of the neck

The finish on the body and back of the neck is "Gloss", as in gloss polyurethane - at least that's what the specs say, and what I've seen in any regular CD model. Lemon oil (type) products are mainly for bare wood, so I'd recommend just regular poly maintenance. That's either (politically correct modern way) some commercial guitar cleaner/polish or (old school way) wiping with a cotton rag when needed, a bit of moisture if necessary, a tiny amount of Zippo fluid for tough spots.

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guitar honey on the fretboard and bridge

That will be fine, and the lemon oil works fine there, too.

The "don't overdo it" advice from CB91710 is solid, and I'll add that in my experience,the CD series acoustics seem to be moisture sensitive, so check the truss rod when seasons & humidity change.


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:52 am
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jmattis wrote:
PTDixieGal wrote:
lemon oil on the body and back of the neck

The finish on the body and back of the neck is "Gloss", as in gloss polyurethane - at least that's what the specs say, and what I've seen in any regular CD model. Lemon oil (type) products are mainly for bare wood, so I'd recommend just regular poly maintenance. That's either (politically correct modern way) some commercial guitar cleaner/polish or (old school way) wiping with a cotton rag when needed, a bit of moisture if necessary, a tiny amount of Zippo fluid for tough spots.

PTDixieGal wrote:
guitar honey on the fretboard and bridge

That will be fine, and the lemon oil works fine there, too.

The "don't overdo it" advice from CB91710 is solid, and I'll add that in my experience,the CD series acoustics seem to be moisture sensitive, so check the truss rod when seasons & humidity change.


Let me see if I am understanding you correctly. I might not need the lemon oil on the body (I have Dunlop Formula 65 on hand. I thought it was the lemon oil but it doesn't say so on the bottle). It says guitar polish and cleaner. So I was incorrect about the lemon oil (My apologies). Could I use this on the body? I don't use it often...I think I've only used it 3 times in 18 months on an antique Aria classical guitar.

Also the guy at the store kinda hinted about the truss rod. I'm in the south, so our winters are cold and wet. I do have a hygrometer in the house and one in each guitar case, and I make notes about when each guitar seems to be in tune, when I am more likely to get a little more buzz, when it sounds funny...that sort of thing. I have also invested in humidifiers and dehumidifiers (not to get political but I do have a pistol). The Aria is veneer so I don't worry about it as much. The Fender is different...it's my first guitar with any solid wood in the body and it's also my first with a truss rod. Do you have any suggestions there? Thank you


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:13 pm
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Dunlop has gone haywire with their productizing, and there are so many variations I don't even follow their menu anymore. :wink:
But if the stuff is a guitar cleaner & polish, that's exactly one of those 'commercial guitar cleaner/polishes' I wrote about, so use it on the body & neck backside when needed.

On the humidity, just try to maintain the humidity as constant as possible; sudden changes are the worst.
In my 'hood (Scandinavia), it's common that truss rods need adjusting twice a year - late in the fall when central heating & dry indoors kicks in, and then again when the blessed spring returns. Usually that's 1/8 of a turn adjustment, so nothing drastic.
If you want to DIY, learning to 'read' (the truss rod = the neck bend =) the relief is not hard: capo on the first, press the lowE string on the 14th fret, check the distance between 7th fret top and string bottom. (Some use pressing the 12th fret, measuring on 6th fret.) Use feeler gauges in the beginning, leave them out when you feel you got it. Start with no or very small relief (thus the truss rod gives proper support for the neck), add a little if your playing style seems to need it.


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:11 pm
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jmattis wrote:
Use feeler gauges in the beginning, leave them out when you feel you got it. Start with no or very small relief (thus the truss rod gives proper support for the neck), add a little if your playing style seems to need it.


Where do you find the gauges?


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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:43 pm
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PTDixieGal wrote:
jmattis wrote:
Use feeler gauges in the beginning, leave them out when you feel you got it. Start with no or very small relief (thus the truss rod gives proper support for the neck), add a little if your playing style seems to need it.


Where do you find the gauges?

Any auto parts store

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:07 pm
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Like this one?


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:03 pm
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That's the type. In addition to auto parts stores & the web, those are found in all hardware stores, many "cheapo markets" and such - almost any shop selling tools has them. And although I usually advice to get only quality tools, gauges seldom cause major problems or even annoyance.

A tip: For those who like little relief, a sheet of your everyday-household-copy/printer paper is 0,1mm/.004" thick. So, if a strip of that just slides between the fret and string, the relief is how I like it...

One thing not mentioned; don't be afraid to use a pro guitar tech if needed.
The "initial setup for a new guitar" is not just for electric guitars. On acoustics, the procedure is easier, but it usually includes checking (& minor leveling if needed) the frets, adjusting string height to optimum (= checking & fixing the saddle and bridge) and adjusting the truss rod. The price is usually somewhere around 60-90 $€£, and that's money well spent.


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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:54 pm
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LOL, ya...
99 Cent Store screwdrivers might work once, and hopefully they are soft enough not to damage the screw when they fail (but they usually take the screw head with them), but feeler gauges are one of those things that really can't fail to work properly as long as the measurements are right.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:56 pm
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Thank you. I'll check the hardware stores. If I'm afraid to fix it I will take it to a tech. Hopefully that won't be for a while...I love this guitar!


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Honey on the fretboard and bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:09 am
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I always use Murphy's Oil Soap to clean and condition my unfinished fretboards. Well, at least the rosewood and ebony ones. I wouldn't use that on maple fretboards.

It does a good job. Try it out.

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