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Post subject: Need help with tone of a couple songs! Led Zep mostly!
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:24 am
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Hi, ive been playing for 7 months now, I own a Yamaha Pacifica, and I´ve been struggling a lot with some songs with the tone, not the playing, so I was wondering if someone could help me around!

The songs are:
Houses of the holy- Led Zep
The Rover - Led Zep

And I don´t know if you could help with the exact delay from "Rain" by Rob Scallon!

Thats it, mostly need help with the Led Zep ones! Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Need help with tone of a couple songs! Led Zep mostly!
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:06 am
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Jimmy Page played Telecasters on most recordings. Marshall amplifiers.

Houses of the Holy: The effect you hear is a flanger.
The Rover: Sounds like a phaser effect to me.

Rain - Rob Scallon: Sounds like the old "Another Brick in the Wall" trick to me. Set the delay for 1 repeat (or very few repeats). Set the rate so the echo repeats are in between beats. It takes some fiddling with the knobs and using your ear. You want it so if you play the beats: 1 2 3 4, the echos end up on "&" of each beat.



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Post subject: Re: Need help with tone of a couple songs! Led Zep mostly!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:27 am
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ghost_of_strings wrote:
Houses of the Holy: The effect you hear is a flanger.
The Rover: Sounds like a phaser effect to me.

Also his doubleneck (12 string) for the intro and rhythm parts.
The lead was pretty straightforward.

I'm thinking there is a Crybaby at partial sweep on The Rover.

Part of the difficulty of nailing accurate tone on Zep tunes is that, like EVH, Page was the opposite of Nugent, who tried to nail everything in one take. Page would spend hours in the studio and layer sometimes as many as 20 tracks to get what he wanted, so sometimes you would get some subtle nuances where one track was ever so slightly out of tune and it really made the part sound like the band was bigger than it was.

Might be easier to go after the tone from live recordings.

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Post subject: Re: Need help with tone of a couple songs! Led Zep mostly!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:01 pm
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CB91710 wrote:
Might be easier to go after the tone from live recordings.

Very true. In that case, it's mostly a Les Paul through Marshall. I think it was amazing how he could boil 20 layered tracks into a single part and somehow it didn't lose anything.

You want instant Led Zep nostalgia? Pick up this pedal. It does a hell of a Uni-vibe impression:

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Also handy if you want to get some David Gilmour sounds.


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Post subject: Re: Need help with tone of a couple songs! Led Zep mostly!
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:22 pm
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For the most part, Jimmy used a variety of Gibson guitars on stage and sometimes in the studio.
However, in the studio he very often used a Telecaster and sometimes a Stratocaster.
In the studio he frequently used smaller Vox amps like the AC15.
Various fuzz boxes, the BOSS SD-1, UniVibe and the Vox Wah pedal were his primary go-to effects.
He also sometimes used the MXR Phase 90 and Yamaha chorus as well as an EchoPlex.
In later years he had more sophisticated equipment, like an Eventide H910/H949 Harmonizer and a Roland synth box.

That is by no means an exhaustive list of the equipment he used but I think it pretty much covers the essentials.
I think one thing most people miss when they are trying to emulate his studio sound is that by itself it was almost painfully bright and raw.
It wasn't until his sound was mixed with the rest of the band that it started to sound like Led Zeppelin.

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