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Post subject: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:15 pm
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First of all, what's the deal with having to Log In about 6 times? I'd log in, click on the education forums link, and have to log in again...this happened a few other times at various parts of the site. Very irritating to say the least, especially considering my current situation with Fender Fuse...

So I installed Fuse a few years ago, when I first bought this guitar and amp, on my old Macbook Pro. I couldn't really figure out the whole fuse thing, as far as downloading effects made by other people, and loading them onto my amp..? replacing the presets on my amp with other effects i've downloaded off of the fuse site, or whatever. is that an accurate description of fender fuse? or am i way off base? Because I wouldn't be surprised either way, to be honest.

So I installed everything on my Windows 7 PC that I now have, and the fuse program says in the bottom left corner "no amplifier connected." I thought, that's funny, it's plugged in with that USB cord and powered on...why isn't it detecting my amp..? Then I see that I am FAR from the only person who has experienced this kind of problem.
I've seen some technically inclined people talking about drivers needing to be updated, uninstalling and reinstalling the fuse software, etc. But what I am wondering is how do I know which drivers I see (when I go to control panel device manager) are affiliated with the fender fuse software? So far I've gone down the list of Human interface drivers (I think that's what it is) and tried to update each one on that list (I believe there were around 5 or 6). However the problem still persists. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:32 pm
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The log-in problem you encounter could be related to your computer/browser compatibility with the forum, or your 'new user' status on the forum. If the problem continues, contact the forum moderators; their info is on the board index page.
Widening that a bit: I was going to write the standard answer; contact consumerrelations@fender.com ; but that emailaddress seems to have gone missing from the support pages, and has been replaced by this "Submit a request" page; https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

The general description you give of the 'Fender FUSE™' is one part of it, there is the downloading but also the creating aspect, plus of course the 'community' prospects. One thing with Fuse™ to note; if you only want to plug and play, a traditional amp gets you there a lot quicker.

On the technical questions, you'd probably get best help on the Fender FUSE™ Software (2010 - Current) section.
But have you checked Fender's own FUSE-No-Amp-Connected-Troubleshooting-Guide-Win


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:35 am
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AxlsSnakepit wrote:
I couldn't really figure out the whole fuse thing, as far as downloading effects made by other people, and loading them onto my amp..? replacing the presets on my amp with other effects i've downloaded off of the fuse site, or whatever. is that an accurate description of fender fuse?

The original intention was to provide a software interface for your Fender Mustang amp so you can "tweak" your settings without ever touching the amp, making all the adjustments on a computer instead.

The software was also intended to give Fender Mustang users a way of downloading presets created by other Fender Mustang users. Not just the effects, but all settings including the amp model selected, expression pedal settings, etc. You could also download "band tracks" or backing tracks.

Currently, Fender is promoting their NEW digital modeling product, the "GT" series of Mustang amplifiers. And it seems that the focus has shifted off ensuring even the basic functionality of Fender Fuse. I can no longer download presets or band tracks. My amplifier will connect so I can tweak my presets, but that's all it does now.

AxlsSnakepit wrote:
So I installed everything on my Windows 7 PC that I now have, and the fuse program says in the bottom left corner "no amplifier connected." I thought, that's funny, it's plugged in with that USB cord and powered on...why isn't it detecting my amp..? Then I see that I am FAR from the only person who has experienced this kind of problem.

There was a sticky thread with troubleshooting documents to help you. But it is no longer "sticky" on the forum. Here is the thread, but the "no amplifier connected" link is dead: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=66946

"oops

The page you were looking for doesn't exist

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved

Take me back to the home page"


Long story short, NEVER buy a digital modeling product from Fender again. They simply stop supporting what they sell you after a few years. So why buy in to the new "GT" series now if they're going to be ignored in 3 years? Unless of course you can afford to buy a new amp about as often as you replace your cell phone, and don't mind destroying the environment by pumping more obsolete hardware into landfills. :D

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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:30 am
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Ha, ha, ha, no!

NEVER buy a digital modeling product from Fender again
No again.

What would u do if I sang out of tune?

1st: A Mac is considerably more reliable after update 10.12.5
more so after the upcoming 10.12.6
Avoid beta's
I'm down to 3 restarts a day already
2nd: If you had a product like a tube amp for 70 years
successfully, how would u react customers are buying
modelling amps now for a fraction of the costs,
not to mention the benefit of having only 1 (short)
cable on stage ?
3rd: Read the manual !
Wellpower of soul - Anything is possible from the amp

BTW: Tube production is hazardous to the earth's climate


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 am
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Harald4 wrote:
1st: A Mac is considerably more reliable after update 10.12.5
more so after the upcoming 10.12.6
Avoid beta's
I'm down to 3 restarts a day already

ahem.
AxlsSnakepit wrote:
So I installed everything on my Windows 7 PC that I now have

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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:51 am
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Think of a modelling amp as 1 or (maybe) 2 tracks at a console
enclosed in a cabinet with speakers and a power amp,
loud enough to drive even the drummer in your band crazy.
Isn't that what it's all about?

You also have access to numerous effects via 1 (short) cable.
This used to be the concept of the Roland Jazz Chorus 120,
the Dynachord GS 824 and now the Mustang and GT.
If it works for Steve Howe, shouldn't it work for you too ?
I'm happy, and I do not see the urge of this discussion
in the education forum, but I will check it out

One last remark: I once heard from the outside of a concert hall Lynyrd Skynyrd. I could easily distinguish the tubes on stage from the transistor PA. All I listened to was the music


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:43 am
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So as for the global enviroment concerns,
we do have an agreement already ?
or what does "ähem" mean ?
Express yourself

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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:01 am
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strings10927 wrote:
There was a sticky thread with troubleshooting documents to help you. (...) Here is the thread, but the "no amplifier connected" link is dead

The current NoAmpConnectedSupport page is the one I linked, see above.

But I sorta agree with your 'be wary with new products' statement. Might only be that I don't belong to the marjeting target group, which probably goes happydoodles every time a new product is launched and the old one becomes obsolete... :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:22 am
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Harald4 wrote:
So as for the global enviroment concerns,
we do have an agreement already ?

Well let's see - a few glass tubes make to a landfill every year or so vs. an entire transistor amplifier (cabinet/speakers/circuit board) every 3-5 years. I'd say it's at least debatable which will have a greater impact on the environment over time.
Harald4 wrote:
what does "ähem" mean ?
Express yourself

Pointing out you were providing suggestions for the Mac, which O.P. stated was replaced with a MS Windows 7 computer.

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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:28 am
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Exactly,

take a car for example:
The new model looks uglier than the last one,
has modifications u do not need and still does not close the roof and the mirrors when it's raining just like the "old" one does.
Why would u buy this model ?

The GT, promised as a "stereo amp" is still the Mustang in disguise, with some cosmetics
and a higher retail price
Anyway, I am happy with my Mustang IV,
if u can get one at discount...


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:53 am
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A few glass cubes - you're kidding ?

An average tube amp has 2 to 8 power tubes.
Considering the amount of professionally used amps worldwide, which I have no data upon,
I had a Boogie 2:90 where I changed tubes like strings on my guitars, beside the costs, there are serious amounts of quicksilver, gold and other toxic elements released into the enviroment.
Not to mention them amateurs who change tubes like strings just to make an excuse for not practising.
There are people here in these Forums collecting amps and guitars like stamps and maintaining them.

It looks ridiculous to me.

I remember a time when I bled my fingertips on a guitar with 4 strings and did not have the money for replacements.

These times have gone, I replace anything that has to be replaced and my Fender 75 from the 80ies has found its place into my bookshelf
as a reference to my Mustang IV.

I do not regret anything,
but today I see the responsibility to further generations and how we, the actual players have an obligation to show what's necessary.

A tube amp is definitely not


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:18 pm
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A solid-state amp does not have a running time of 3-5 years. Tax-wise maybe, then only one year. B.B. King's Gibson Lab 5.

A solid state amp, besides the marketing benefits created by some 30-year old expert who never played an instrument
(I met a Wolfgang von Schacht at the Villa Tausendschön in the Rhein/Main area at the Frankfurt Fair who really advised me to put a 19" delay into a Boogie's bass cabinet slot
with absolute conviction),

lasts a lifetime, however, I fell into the same marketing trap and invested some 10.000
into a tube eqippment which I now luckily replaced,
u might have guessed, with a Mustang IV


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:26 pm
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Harald4 wrote:
A solid-state amp does not have a running time of 3-5 years.

I'm referring to the Fender Mustang v1 and v2 series (not SS amps in General) which are quickly heading toward "obsolete" territory as the features of Fender Fuse are no longer available. I purchased mine in 2012. Now I can't download presets or band tracks. That was a major selling point of the amp. In my case, I got about 5 years of full functionality out of it.

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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:34 pm
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Fine, functionality.

The concept, as far as I can see it, was,
to grab new customers with an option of state of the art presets.
A neat idea.

No need to reset into a defensive position.
We are discussing real circumstances here.
I do understand an amp and how to use it.

The question is, do u really need any advices to run an amp ?
Read the f...... manual x times, you'll grow out of it.

Angus Young of AC/DC once stated, his sound comes from the
sheer amount of amps involved, no strings attached -
thus, crank up the master volume and wear ear protection.

Next, an amp with effects:

Do u need one of these presets ?
I have some notorious ones on my HD and I will send them.

Besides, think of the times when none of these options were
available and create your own presets -
Self-confidence is the name of the game here.

It is the same as with an e-car:
The idea is there, reality is another theme.

Now u have a Mustang, deal with it,
and I am so very much bored with the platform war,
Mac or that other thing...

It is an amp, tweek pots and have fun,
all of your sounds are already there


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Post subject: Re: Another Fender Fuse thread
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:35 am
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Harald4 wrote:
The question is, do u really need any advices to run an amp ?
Read the f...... manual x times, you'll grow out of it.....
It is an amp, tweek pots and have fun,
all of your sounds are already there

that's great, but what about the "Band Tracks"? Do you think if I tweak the pots long enough, a backing track will spring out onto my desktop? :roll:

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