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Post subject: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:34 pm
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Can anyone offer any pros and cons here.

I'm close to getting a X2, but prices here are steep ($500, and no, there's no used ones around) and a Mustang I can be had for $170. Although it's been a year or more since I tried a Mustang, I didn't like it, and with the V2 out soon, there's no old stock of I&II around to compare anyway.

I've tried all the popular digital modellers; Cubes, VT+, and a Vox AC4, Blackstar HT5 etc didn't like any of those either. Some of the X2 voices aren't my thing, but that can be fixed with Fuse, but then so can any issues I might have previously had with the Mustang.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:35 pm
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I have an X2 and a Mustang l. I prefer the sound of my X2 in all things, but there are times I want to play and relative silence is needed in my various living situations. The Mustang l allows me to always rock and/or record whenever the mood hits me. If being quiet is ever a consideration then the Mustangs are the deal. If I was to play out it would be my X2. I keep my little Mustang by my computer, USB attached and it is ready to go. 4 AM? No problem. The US110 dollars I spent on my Mustang is some of the best money I ever spent. They are now back down to US100.

The US350, I spent on my X2 was another great purchase.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:44 am
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can the speaker out be used with headphones

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:35 pm
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Trini wrote:
can the speaker out be used with headphones


Not that I know. The speaker out is 15 watts into 8 ohms and is meant to power a speaker. The line out may be a better bet but it is a mono, single channel output that I know of. The SCX2 is an old fashioned amp as far as basic usage goes. For modern things like headphones and an aux in, the mustang is the amp to use if you are keeping it Fender. The Musty l is for low volumes and headphones, IMO. It excels at that type of usage. It can get fairly loud, but the sound is not pleasing when it is cranked. The most flexibility is probably the Musty lll. Gigable, has the right speaker for higher volumes, but still has all of the modern amenities plus a less fuse/computer dependent way to work with the DSP. It is also the same basic price point as the SCX2, head or combo. The new V2 Musty lll's are kind of midway between the SCX2 head and combo.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:12 pm
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only today i came accross the scx2
liked the idea of being a tube amp with a clean chanel and a second chanel with presets like the mustang.
but i am very dissapoined that they did not include a headphone and aux. jack
same thing like the marshall sl5 great amp no headphone and aux. jack

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:15 pm
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Tube amp design makes headphone outputs expensive, as you have to manage the power to the headphone stage. Many SS amps have them because they don't have this issue, or it's cheaper to work it in.


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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:15 am
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By Bugera V5, a tube amp has a headphone jack and it sounds like complete noisy, poppy (poopy too) crap and is useless for headphones, IMO. Maybe my jack does not work properly, but one try was all I could take. Stunk as a line out too. It is why I own a few smaller amps. They provide unique sonic and use niches for me. All three, SCX2, Musty l and BugV5 are problem free and provide me with immense enjoyment.

Compare that to threads on the new high priced re-issues of classic Fender amps and I consider my choice a head-ache free bargain.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:25 am
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For me there was no comparison, the SCX2 just sounded a lot better than either the Mustang I or II- especially the clean side. No solid state modelers can really reproduce the tube-driven cleans Fender is famous for, IMO. Mustangs are affordable, feature-rich and reliable, but they just don't sound as good as the Vintage Modified series. If your primary need is late-night practice with headphones, get the Mustang, otherwise get the SCX2.


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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:32 pm
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Brad Craig wrote:
For me there was no comparison, the SCX2 just sounded a lot better than either the Mustang I or II- especially the clean side. No solid state modelers can really reproduce the tube-driven cleans Fender is famous for, IMO. Mustangs are affordable, feature-rich and reliable, but they just don't sound as good as the Vintage Modified series. If your primary need is late-night practice with headphones, get the Mustang, otherwise get the SCX2.


I totally agree. That is why I have only a Musty l amp. It does everything I want from it. For making a joyful noise in live situations, I have the SCX2 and the Bug V5 for a little class A EL84 fun. With headphones, sitting by my computer, the Musty l is all I need for that kind of work.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:01 pm
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Would it be safe to say the scx2 is like a mustang amp with tubes

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:40 pm
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Trini wrote:
Would it be safe to say the scx2 is like a mustang amp with tubes


Safe but not so correct, IMO. The scx2 is very much like a real amp. Owning them both, they do very different things for me. The Champ is like an amp and the Musty like a guitar computer. The bigger ones may be a different story. I almost never use my Musty without headphones. It sounds great that way and is as quiet as an electric guitar unamplified is. It is a very nice way to record tracks into the computer. My scx2 sounds great recording with the line out, but it has to be in a setting where amplification is welcome.

In closing, the scx2 is very much like owning a Princeton without the cost. Also without the problems many of the re-issues are having.

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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:02 pm
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That pretty much sums it up, Modwiz.

The Larger Musty's Are more like real amps, but they're also like guitar computers, too. Kind of like a mega-multi channel switcher, and a multi-effect processor rolled into one.

Being digi/solid state, they do get a much larger array of tones at low volume. Even though the 3 is 100 watts, it still works well- and sounds great- at bedroom volume levels.

To do that with the SCX2, you need to use pedals for the extra dirt. Like all tube based amps, it does sound better when you open up the throttle.


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Post subject: Re: X2 Vs Mustang I (or II)
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:14 am
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modwiz wrote:
Trini wrote:
can the speaker out be used with headphones


Not that I know. The speaker out is 15 watts into 8 ohms and is meant to power a speaker. The line out may be a better bet but it is a mono, single channel output that I know of. The SCX2 is an old fashioned amp as far as basic usage goes. For modern things like headphones and an aux in, the mustang is the amp to use if you are keeping it Fender. The Musty l is for low volumes and headphones, IMO. It excels at that type of usage. It can get fairly loud, but the sound is not pleasing when it is cranked. The most flexibility is probably the Musty lll. Gigable, has the right speaker for higher volumes, but still has all of the modern amenities plus a less fuse/computer dependent way to work with the DSP. It is also the same basic price point as the SCX2, head or combo. The new V2 Musty lll's are kind of midway between the SCX2 head and combo.



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