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Post subject: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:13 pm
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Yes, these probably were answered before, I have not had time to read, so here we go
Anyone ever use or would it benefit to use a BBE Sonic Stomp?
Speaker changing?
Any other mods I may have missed?
The amp sounds really great still but I always look around,,

Thanks for your time. MK


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:35 pm
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Mods- Why?? It already has a nice Celestion speaker in it, chosen to sound good with THIS amp. Pretty much everything else is digital, except for the solid state power amp. There isn't much there TO modify.

The real issue is, of course, do you REALLY want to void the 5 yr warranty? Just about any modification would throw that out the window.

As for effect pedals, they work fine with these amps. One caviat: The Mustang amps have a digital preamp which doesn't respond well to large input voltage boosts. Just don't try to overdrive the input, and it'll be fine. Dirt pedals that have their own distortion to layer on work best. Strait up boosts really only work in the fx loop to boost your volume for solos. They won't change your tone- they can't, there are no tubes to overdrive.

The fx that ship with the amp are pretty nice, and are extremely tweakable. I do understand that players have their own preferences oftentimes, and like to use them if they can. I have 5 hooked up to mine at any given time. Some in front, the rest in the loop. ( I use an OCD and an MXR '78 Distortion in front of mine to add a different flavor to whatever preset I'm using. 4 sounds from 1 preset. They layer on very well.)

I'm not familiar with the specific pedal you quoted. I will say that while you CAN use a multi-fx processor with it, it seems redundant to pile on more modelling to what's already there. ( not to mention adding more complication.)


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:57 pm
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mak1965@msn.com wrote:
The amp sounds really great still but I always look around,,



No disrespect intended at all, but heres the problem with that statement. This amp has so much potential within the available parameters that by looking for other mods or things to change is like walking past the best restaurant in the world and into a mc donalds in your search for the tastiest dish. Seriously, i've had mine about 6 months and i haven't even scratched the surface of what i can get out of it. I'm just so satisfied with what i HAVE gotten so far i lost all desire to mod things and buy new gear etc. And on the rare occasion that i feel bored i just try dialing up a model i never use and see if i can get something good out of it. Theres so much there it would take a lifetime to get the most out of it. But long before you scratch the surface you'll have sounds that are so satisfying you'll only want to do the one thing you SHOULD be doing most....playing !

So to sum up, learn the parameters and see what they all do. It takes a lot of time to really become intimately familiar with them but worth every second. Once your ear becomes acutely familiar with them all then your tones will being to improve and you will find yourself coming up with stuff thats much more valuable than buying new gear and trying to get tone that way. Thats the way we've always done it and it's been an expensive and never ending lifelong journey with little reward. The beauty of the mustang is those days are over....everything you need for all the killer tones you could dream of is at your fingertips !


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:19 pm
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Quite simply this is a good amp.

I gig with it regularly. This amp really is the complete package with no mods required.

The FX loop works just fine, however I prefer to enjoy a simple set up by using the amps capabilities to the fullest extent. To be honest I never get hung about favourite FX pedals only about tone, and with work this amp can give you what want.


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:01 am
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The BBE is not going to hurt anything as long as you don't push the input too hard, but that said, it may take away more than it adds. I mean you can compare for yourself right? trust your ears and all right?

The MIII already comes factory loaded with an upgraded celestion as compared to the MII.

The great thing about the Mustangs is that it's very easy to get some great sounds out of it with the cable straight out of the guitar and to the input. With the a III, IV or V, you can use both the 2 button and 4 button foot switches and have total control over the amp remotely. it's a drop dead simplistic setup that you can get a lot of different sounds out of.

I would just leave it as is, as already suggested, and just learn what the amp can do to pull the sounds out that you like best. There's really nothing to modify.

I think you'll find all that you need can probably be saved in 4 or 5 presets, I usually use 3, (I have both a III and a IV and have used the IV at gigs mic'd up a few times now)

I think here, the basic rule, "if it aint broke, don't fix it" applies.


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:10 am
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mak1965@msn.com wrote:
Anyone ever use or would it benefit to use a BBE Sonic Stomp?
Speaker changing?
Any other mods I may have missed?
The amp sounds really great still but I always look around,,

Thanks for your time. MK


Makes no sense. Tube gear-heads will mod amps because they didn't like something about the signature sound it has.

The Mustang models loads of other amps. You already got a "pre-modded" amp that'll do all sorts of different sounds.


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:10 pm
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The Mustang amps have a digital preamp which doesn't respond well to large input voltage boosts

For accuracy, this is nothing to do with the Mustang specifically. This is the case with all solid-state amplifiers. They work in a very different way to valve amplifiers. If you overdrive the input of a solid-state amp it sounds rubbish. By contrast, overdriving the input of a valve amp gives it that nice crunchy distortion. Solid-state amplifiers need to use different means to obtain the sound of overdrive distortion.


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Post subject: Re: Few fender m3 v2 Questions
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:58 pm
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scott-uk wrote:
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The Mustang amps have a digital preamp which doesn't respond well to large input voltage boosts

For accuracy, this is nothing to do with the Mustang specifically. This is the case with all solid-state amplifiers. They work in a very different way to valve amplifiers. If you overdrive the input of a solid-state amp it sounds rubbish. By contrast, overdriving the input of a valve amp gives it that nice crunchy distortion. Solid-state amplifiers need to use different means to obtain the sound of overdrive distortion.


Total agree 100%. When I got the Mustang first thing I did was plug in my pedal board - big mistake I found my Distortion and OD pedals to be useless; modulation and delays were fine but I could see no point in only being able to use half of my pedal board. All my pre-conceptions about how I was going to use this amp were blown out of the water. Soon realised what this amp was capable of quickly adding the four button footswitch making this much more gigable. Nice and simple 2 different amp models 3 different sounds (Clean, Crunch, Lead) utilising the built in OD/Ranger, Chorus, Delay and Reverb - that's it nothing else required.


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