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Post subject: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:54 am
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Has anyone tried playing the Mustang Floor into a Quilter Tone Block 200 and a speaker cab? The Tone Block 200 intrigues me. It's reviews are impressive without the M Floor, just guitar into TB200 and a cab. Supposedly the EQ knob can give you classic Fender sparkly clean, to neutral (for the MF etc.), and to British voicing. And the TB200 is in a very small package, about the size of two pedals and puts out 200 watts!!

I was thinking, if it's that good, Fender should buy out the company and incorporate that technology into the MFloor or a Mustang V head. Think of a MFloor with an integral 200W amp inside!!

I will probably buy one just to check it out. But if someone on the Forum has one, for corn sake, speak up, son!!!


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Post subject: Re: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:10 am
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the Mustang 5 does that


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Post subject: Re: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:27 am
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Roger dodger! But I was just imagining a Floor with an integral amp rather than a head. And the Quilter website has this 200 watt solid state amp in several different configurations, combo amps, heads (I think) and rack mount. I think a 200W mono head in a smaller package with the Mustang V2 equipment driving it, and/or a MF V2 with a built in power amp would be cool. Just sayin' :P


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Post subject: Re: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:54 am
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I see what you mean. I totally respect your point of view. The problem is that kind of combination (multi-fx plus power amp) is not very popular and would create a small market niche for the following reasons IMO:
-the advantage of a multi-fx like the floor and others is that you can go around and connect to any PA in place (and not carry the cabinets around!) and of course share that same PA with the rest of the band. But then again, my old-timer bassist insists that every member of the band should be amplifing and providing a huge cab, in order to mic it and then send it to the PA... no wonder he has back problems.
-having a powered amp inside the multi-fx will make it bulkier, more expensive, needing a way bigger power supply, and would require higher gauge cables to connect directly to unpowered external speakers. For monitoring it would be more practical to buy a small powered monitor that suits the environment you plan to play in (I noticed lately that unpowered monitors are in their way to extinction...less and less options available)

IMO the only real and popular application would be to use an existing guitar cabinet with your multi-fx, but then, maybe the Mustang 5 would be cheaper and is more feature rich than the Floor.

PS: all that said, my home setup is a MFloor connected to an unpowered Beringher mixer, to add vocals, bass and sound tracks, then to a cheap but wonderful 60 watts tube power amp I built from a 40$ kit, to a pair of prehistoric Wharfedale bookshelf speakers somebody gave me.

Just my 2 cents.


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Post subject: Re: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:35 am
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Jedi2b, I would not want to delete any of the outputs currently extant on the MF. Mostly I use mine into the church PA and do not have any other amp. Church provides me with a monitor in which I can have any of our vocalists or instruments mixed in. At home it drives my 68 CVR. Fact is, I'd rather use my MIII v2 at church, which has XLR outs for the PA and still have the amp up for real guitar amp sound (absent in the sound system), but the sound weenie doesn't like the loss of control :lol:
The integral PA on the MF would simply make it even more flexible.
I haven't played with a classic rock & blues band for quite a while, but I have tons of Fender toys and the wheels are always spinning, if you know what I mean! The music scene in this eastern Oregon town is very lacking :| Been here for 7 years and missing some of the big city benefits like an excellent music scene.


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Post subject: Re: M Floor Into a Quilter Tone Block 200?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:47 pm
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Hey,

I also use the Floor in the same church context. But I happen also to be the sound-man :)

Problem of using a M3 in that context, is:
-you have to carry the thing around
-the M3 will never sound the same as the audio coming from the PA, so you are not hearing the same thing as the audience... never a good thing IMO

What I did was to setup some shared monitors (2 x 3way active speakers) and that does the trick pretty well.

If you do not have monitors and/or you want to have a monitor for your own, you can give one of these a try for a personal powered monitor (around 150$)
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/F1220D.aspx

then connect one XLR out from your Floor to the PA and the other XLR out to this monitor


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