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Post subject: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:05 pm
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In playing through clean channels on my new fender mustang v v.2, it sounnds to be a bit overdriven. I've tried everything i could. checked the gain on the settings through fuse, tried different guitars/cables/electricity inputs. I even went as far as to restore my amp to factory settings, but that didn't help.


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:48 pm
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What are the exact settings you're using? Amp model, settings for that model, other effects enabled in the preset, settings for those, etc?


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:45 pm
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also, what king of pickups are you using? are you putting any pedals in fron of the amp?


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:20 am
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And as it's a Mustang 5 (head), what cab/speakers are you using? Or if not a cab, how are you monitoring the sound - USB out, XLR out, headphones out, etc?


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:05 pm
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Okay Thank you all for responding first off. It's not a full on overdrive, but it just gives off more of a grainy sound when lower strings are hit, or chords are played through the higher strings.
Settings: http://s40.photobucket.com/user/chrgarc ... t=3&page=1

Pickups: EmgHZ set, epiphone set, ibanez stock set. neck and bridge positions were both tried.

Cabinet: Line 6 Spider Cabinet. 8ohm stereo just like the Fender mustang cabinets pretty much.

I know it isn't the guitars or cables, because I have tried many different combinations and they all seem to work perfectly on my line 6 spider head. Thank you all so much for replying.


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:08 pm
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OK, a few things to try.

First, are you sure that the Line6 cab has two completely independent stereo channels, with no electrical interconnection between the channels at all? They can't even share a common ground. I don't know what difference this might make, but Fender make a big thing of this when talking about suitable cabs for the Mustang 5 head, so I assume it's important.

You have a chorus and reverb in the pre- position (that is, before the amp model in the signal chain). That's an unusual place to put those effects. For the purpose of diagnostics, can you remove them entirely from the preset. When you replace them, you may want to consider putting them in the more usual post- position, after the amp model (that's where FUSE and your amp would put them by default anyway).

You have the preset Volume on 10. Try that somewhere in the range 5 to 7 (and increase the amp master volume to suit, if the overall sound is then too quiet for you).

I'm not saying that any of the above have to be your final settings; at this point we're trying to isolate the cause of the distortion, then we can work on the right settings for a solution.


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:08 pm
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you are using extremely hot pickups. You can validate this easily: if the only "basic" present without overdrive is the twin65, then you are putting too much gain into the amp input.

My suggestion would be to lower your guitar volume and/or separate the pickups from the strings to see if that makes a difference. Lowering your guitar volume will hurt your tone more than separating the pickups, but could be a quick test.


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:40 am
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you are using extremely hot pickups ... you are putting too much gain into the amp input

That was my first thought on seeing the reference to the EMG pickups. But (and maybe I'm wrong, hence this post) I assumed the subsequent reference to epiphone and Ibanez meant that the OP had also tried the Mustang with other guitars having more ordinary pickups, and thus discounted it.

If I am wrong, and all the pickups the OP has tried are hot/active, then I agree 100% with jedi2b. Also, check the batteries in the pickups - although if you say you've tried the same guitars with other amps since you've tried the Mustang, and had no problems, that's less likely to be the issue. (Or if you haven't tried other amps since the Mustang, do that now and check if you get the slight distortion or not).


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:43 pm
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if i remember correctly,
when you read HZ pickups (ibanez ones for example) it means a kind of passive pickups with high impedance(Z)
that should give you some advantages and properties of active pickups and in the same time don't need the battery supply (the usual 9 Volt as for pedal effects or acoustic guitar with preamp/eq and mic).

whether they are active or passive high impedance pickups are always very efficient and definitely powerful.
I also agree on the fact that preset Volume set to maximum contributes to make the sound dirty and needs to be lowered.

Dimitri

edit: in fact, they are passive as I remembered. http://www.emgpickups.com/why-emg see the last item "EMG PASSIVE PICKUPS?"


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:05 pm
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as I mentioned, pickup height from strings is a very important factor: I just replaced a PAF like bridge humbucker pickup by a medium gain Lace pickup, at the same height (around 3mm below the strings). With the PAF everything was mellow and just a bit dirty, with the new pickup all amp models are super-overdriven (except twin 65) even at lower volumes (4/10), and this pickup is by no means as hot as a EMG!

In essence if I don't lower the pickup, this guitar is only good for shredding :)


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:20 pm
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Lace Sensor pickup ?


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Post subject: Re: Clean Channel Problems/Buzzing Overdriven sound
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:59 pm
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...the cheaper version. They are called "powered by Lace" The best 20$ I spent in a long time I guess


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