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Post subject: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:18 am
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I just joined this forum as I am considering the purchase of a Mustang III V.2. I have a couple of questions:

1. Why do the amp models shown when turning the wheel appear to be in no specific order? Wouldn't it make more sense for Fender to have grouped the amp models into similar types?
2. Does anyone know if a new model of the Mustang III (V.3?) is coming out soon?

Thanks for any feedback!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:37 am
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my only "guess" for a possible reasoning being that they put some of the ones that may be more popular with younger players, (like Liquid Solo being #0), in the lower settings.

These amps really shine when you get to the "BASIC" presets that are up closer in the #80/#90 presets.

as far as version 3, Only Fender can answer that,, for any of us, it would be pure speculation.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:43 am
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1-they are ! When i go to choose a model to use it scrolls thru the fenders one after the other with even the BF and tweeds all grouped together. I'm not sure what it is you're seeing.

2-no idea, wish i did.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:48 am
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I think he's asking about preset 0, preset 1, etc seems that what you're talking about is if you go to change a preset? Then you see them all listed more or less in groupings.

am I missing something?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:50 pm
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Hi Boongie,

We are happy to assist. If I understand your question correctly, it sounds like you are asking why the amp models aren't appearing in a 'specific' order as you scroll up the Preset list from 00. Is that correct? If so, the reason that you are seeing the amps in what appears to be a random order is that each of the 100 Presets on the Fender® Mustang™ III-V amps is fully assignable. You can have any combination of amp model and up to (1) of each effect type assigned in each Preset. Therefore, as you navigate through the Preset lists, you will see a variety of Presets with different amp models (and effects) shown.

I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if we can offer any additional information either before or after you purchase the amp.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:30 am
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KidBlast wrote:
I think he's asking about preset 0, preset 1, etc seems that what you're talking about is if you go to change a preset? Then you see them all listed more or less in groupings.

am I missing something?


That's the way I took the question as well. 8)

I believe Your original answer was on target.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:06 am
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Perhaps I am not understanding the names that Fender is giving to each of their presets, except for the ones that are modeling amps in the 80's and 90's number range. For instance, what does "Liquid Solo" mean? Does that setting bear any relationship to the settings that follows it?

To the Fender folks...would you be able to let us know if an update to the Mustang series is forthcoming? Perhaps to be shown at the NAMM show in January?

Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:00 am
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Hi Boongie,

So, each of the Presets on the amp has been given a name. The names don't necessarily directly reflect the exact amp model or an effect. Some are named as a reference to a music genre or style. Some are named to have a bit of fun, and some are templates. However, the overall concept is that each of the 100 Presets can be fully configured to contain whatever name, model and effects that you like. So, it is not so much a concept of model order, rather a set of 100 Presets set up either as Factory stock or as anything else that you would like. I hope that information is helpful.

In regard to possible future products, unfortunately we are not able to make any comments. The best thing to do would be to check the Fender® web site. Any new products will announced and shown there. Please let us know if we can assist further.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:38 am
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Hey Boongie

I'd advise to not even worry about those preset names, Some of the are indeed self descriptive, (like Delayed Princeton) where others like Liquid Solo, or Sic Clean, are not,

IMO, it's not really relevant. You can change them to what ever you like. like save Liquid Solo for I LOVE THIS PRESET!


at the end of the day doesn't really matter what they are called.


better to know the names of the models that are behind the presets sounds. the difference between a Princeton verses a Deluxe Reverb, verses a champ, etc are huge,

some guitars work really good with some models. (aka: Single coil vs. humbuckers)

my Fenders (especially my old Tele) sounds outrages with the Twin, Princeton and '57 Deluxe models. just to die for..

My Gibsons with humbuckers also work with these but nothing like the single coils do,

I find that the humbuckers really come to life with some of "British" settings (Brit 80's which is a Marshall-esque setting, or the Brit 60's which is a Vox style.)

But anyway, the MODELS behind these presets is where the rubber hits the road.

Like Alan from Customer Support suggests.. think of these as simply "labels" for the presets, half of them are tounge in cheek like Day Of Sighs is obviously trended towards the sounds Robin Trower was getting on (his most incredible) Bridge of Sighs album. I think that's the best answer for "Why" these are so.


Hope this helps!

/Ray


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:30 am
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Hi Ray,

Thanks for your contributions in this chat. I trust that your information will prove helpful for Boongie as well. :)

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:41 pm
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Thanks. These answer my question regarding the order (and naming) of the presets. I am new to guitar playing and have an Epiphone Les Paul. I have been using a friend's tube amp but I want to practice at night and don't want to wake the family. So I guess a solid state amp with a headphone jack is the answer. I have narrowed my choices down to a Mustang III V.2 or a Vox Valvetronix VT80+. I have been able to audition a Mustang at a retail store, but it appears that the VT80+ may have just been discontinued by Vox as both a major retailer and a major internet seller no longer offer it for sale.

I would be interested in knowing if anyone with a Les Paul that likes a clean sound and 80's classic rock using a Mustang III finds these to be a good combination.

Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:10 pm
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I've been playing guitar for 10 months and I play an Epiphone Les Paul through a Mustang III v.1 and it sounds great. I play some 80's & 90's rock and also a lot of Metallica. I like some of the amp's cleans, though they haven't blown me away. I need to do some more tweaking on that. I'm using my amp through headphones probably 75% of the time.

The coolest part about having a Mustang is the FUSE software because that just opens up a whole new world. You can customize everything and download presets that have been created by other people in the "community".

My buddy has a solid state Vox that I think might be the same one you mentioned. I haven't had a chance to play with it much but it does sound good. But the Mustang has more to offer, especially since you get free access to FUSE and AmpliTube.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:13 pm
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Boongie wrote:
Thanks. These answer my question regarding the order (and naming) of the presets. I am new to guitar playing and have an Epiphone Les Paul. I have been using a friend's tube amp but I want to practice at night and don't want to wake the family. So I guess a solid state amp with a headphone jack is the answer. I have narrowed my choices down to a Mustang III V.2 or a Vox Valvetronix VT80+. I have been able to audition a Mustang at a retail store, but it appears that the VT80+ may have just been discontinued by Vox as both a major retailer and a major internet seller no longer offer it for sale.

I would be interested in knowing if anyone with a Les Paul that likes a clean sound and 80's classic rock using a Mustang III finds these to be a good combination.

Thanks!


I have an Epi Les Paul, too, and get some great clean and cleanish sounds with it and my MIII. Brit 70's is pretty much a no brainer combo (it's a marshall plexi), but my favorite sound comes with any of the "Tweed" Fender models. With a "brand G" type guitar, those amps will give you a nice warm clean, which crunches up VERY nicely if you drive it harder.

Through the brit 70's, I can make my LP's bridge pickup chime like all get-out.

FWIW, my first ever amp was a Vox VT20+. It got relegated to closet duty as soon as I got my SuperChamp x2 and MIII. As someone else mentioned, the Fender modellers have more to offer. IMO, Fender's decision to concentrate on a small # of amps to model- 12 or 17, compared to 33 for the Vox meant that they could do them better.

Don't get me wrong, I LIKED the Vox- there were some great sounds in there. Esp in the US Blues and US 2x12 sections. I did, however quickly become frustrated by the effects- just more or less for the stomps and reverbs, and level and speed for delays and mods...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:34 am
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I did, however quickly become frustrated by the effects- just more or less for the stomps and reverbs, and level and speed for delays and mods

Ditto. I too was initially looking at the Valvetronix range (as I like the "VOX sound"). The greater ability to control the effects (and amp model) settings on the Mustang (particularly directly on the amp rather than via PC) were a significant part of my decision to buy a Mustang instead.

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it appears that the VT80+ may have just been discontinued by Vox as both a major retailer and a major internet seller no longer offer it for sale

Individual retailers change their stock lines all the time, for various reasons. I'm not aware of VOX withdrawing it, and it would be wrong to infer that from the actions of a couple of retailers. If it's important to you, check directly with VOX.

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anyone with a Les Paul that likes a clean sound and 80's classic rock using a Mustang III finds these to be a good combination

That's me and absolutely, the Mustang works very well with my LP. It does everything from mellow-clean through sparkly-clean through gritty-blues-crunch excellently. I'll leave others to comment on high-gain/metal stuff, not my expertise!

I tend to use the Fender Deluxe, British 60s (ie VOX) and British 70s (ie Marshall) amp models the most.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III Questions
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:03 am
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Alan,

Thanks for your contributions in this chat. I trust that your information will prove helpful for Boongie as well.


Thx! I hope so too! Back when I started out, (1969/1970) there was a guitar, a cable, and an amp, and if you had all three - and a spare string or two, you were on your way! (life was way simpler then!).

Boongie,

I would be interested in knowing if anyone with a Les Paul that likes a clean sound and 80's classic rock using a Mustang III finds these to be a good combination.

I agree (again) with Scott.

You will have no problem at all getting great tones out of that amp with humbuckers.
The Twin models really work nicely for the ultra clean sounds, for something with just a little bit of attitude, the '57 Delux is a winner. You'll want to head to the "BASIC" models to really get the most of them. The majority of the "preset" settings have things added (compressors, overdrives, etc) that can prevent you from getting those real crystal clear clean sounds.

for high gain, I would think you should not have a problem there either. I also don't use extreme gain settings, the British 70's 80's and 90's models usually take care of those heavier tones when I need them as well.

The Vox will sound good, they are also nice amps, but really, IMO, the Mustangs are really hard to beat, way more options with your fx chain and a lot more flxibility These are probably the best amp modeling platforms available today.

go with the Stang III and you'll never look back

I liked the III so much that when stores started blowing out the Mustang v1 IV I picked one up. I still love my tube amps, they sound great, but they are heavy to move and I need to lug a pedal board around to complete the setup. These Mustangs are really just too cool to pass on. I've gigged with the IV, and it's a beast.


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