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Post subject: Mustang Floor tone question
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:48 pm
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Do you set your amp's tone knobs all on 10 or all on 5 and then use the Floor's modelled amp tone knobs to set the tone for each patch (which makes most sense to me)? I'm still struggling with the best/right way to set it up. Between my real 65 DRRI and TRRI I can't settle on a good, consistent setup. I may have to build separate sets of patches for each amp. I need some help from those who use their M Floor with more than one amp if possible. Or from the Fender Tech guys, if/when you're available.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor tone question
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:52 pm
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I would set the real amps at 5 for L, M, H, when using the amp modeling of the Mustang Floor or, what ever gives you the best clean sound from the real amps. Personally I would not use the amp modeling into those amps but use just the effects from the Mustang floor. You could however use the amp models (sparingly) as additional GAIN type of effects or extra eq but as a rule, preamp models into a second preamp tend to generate a high signal to noise ratio, although not as evident with a clean sound as it is if you cranked up the gain on both. I use my Mustang Floor into my effects return on a Fender Ultimate Chorus, essentially using only the power section of my amp and bypassing it's preamp, but your amps don't have effects loops so that is not an option. Also, Modelers usually sound best into powered pa speakers or direct to a PA system, not so much into a guitar amp. One last option is to set both amps to their best CLEAN sound and go GUITAR > Mustang guitar input> Mustang L/output to input of one amp and Mustang R/output to the other amp, giving you stereo amplification from the Mustang Floor. Hope this gives you some different options to think about. Good luck and, experiment.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor tone question
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:51 am
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Lynn,

I have my Floor into an older Vox Pathfinder (I am trying to find another one on eBay since they don't make that model any more, as a back up and to try a stereo set up). I have the two tone controls set to their mid point for as "flat" of a sound as I can get. It does have two volumes controls too, so I set the "Gain" one real low so it does not add much to the tone already out of the Floor. My goal is, which it sounds like yours is, to use the amp as a "power stage". With that said, in my set up, that amp is used only as a monitor for me. The audience hears my signal through the house from the balanced output. I meant to turn the Cabinet Modelling off in the unbalanced output, but have been lazy and have not gotten around to it.

I also have a Fender Princeton SS amp that I use at home for practice, but I am not as happy with the pairing as the tone sounds thinner versus the Vox (my main guitar is a tele, so thin is rule of the day - I need a guitar with humbuckers for more variety). With that Amp I have the bass setting between 7 - 8 and the treble between 3-4 to adjust for the thinner tone. I am still not as happy with it, but it's just for practice. I want to sell this amp and use the cash for another Vox, if I can find the same model I currently have.

I am curious to try my set up with an Vox AC15 and see how the tube power stage affects the sound. I also have a 2 channel Carvin rack tube power amp with two Carvin tweed cabinets I am curious to see how the Floor pairs with that rig. I just haven't had the time to set it all up and test it all out.

With all this said, I do think that creating your patches through the amp you're going to use is the way to go, so having other banks that adjust for the differing power amps is a prudent option. I have not played around with that to be able to know how practical it will end up being, but based on my current experience it seems it should be the best way to do it. I do need to turn off the cabinet modeling and see how that affects the over all tone on mine.

I did just realize that my Princeton has a power amp input (part of the pre amp out - power amp in, use as an effects loop thing). I should try to plug into that and bypass the Princeton's pre amp and see how I like that sound.

Hopefully there is something in all my ramblings that you find helpful.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor tone question
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 pm
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I dial the best clean sound I can get from my vintage amps. Then the Mustang Floor should be set at 100% bass in Utilities. No speaker simulation in presets!


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