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Post subject: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase 7 ??
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:07 pm
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Hi everyone !
Well for now the Mustang is a disappointment ...
* First the sound is too much clear (fragile sound is the word ;i have the impression that the Celestion 12" will be broke at any moment.)
* Two I cannot run it in Cubase 7 with the usb cable.

I have a USB Midi Keyboard & Usb microphone which are recognized in Cubase 7 easely, then why it's not the case for the Mustang even if i have installed The fender asio thing + Asio all ???

The only thing which is work is to connect the Mustang by the XLR output directly to the Steinberg UR22 , but the sound is too high & the Guitar volume on the UR22 is still heard even if the volume is to "0" ???

Is that the way ? Why it's not simple ?

If i can't run the Fabulous Mustang with Cubase 7 ( the reason of its purchase) in one week i will return the little beast to its cage !

Thank you all

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Post subject: Re: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:39 am
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If you think your Mustang is faulty, then take it back to the store. If you want some help and advice from fellow owners, then posting a polite question here suffices. I can empathise with your frustration at being unable to configure the amp how you want, but be cautious of appearing to have an antagonistic tone.

I doubt very much that the Celestion speaker is fragile or will break. The Mustang amps are well-built and many people use them for gigging with no problems. The speaker is a strong, good-quality component that is more than suitable spec for the amp. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

I don't know what you mean by the sound being too "clear" or "fragile." The Mustangs have myriad settings for shaping the sound within each preset, and of course multiple different amp models to establish the basic tone for each preset. I'd strongly recommend taking the time to learn and experiment with all the available settings. My suggestion would be to start with an amp model appropriate for the style of music you play, turn off all the effects, turn all other settings to their mid positions, then adjust things in small increments from there. If you're not even sure which amp model to start with, then "65 Twin Reverb" is the ubiquitous sensible choice for basic clean sounds.

As for USB, Cubase and ASIO. Which part doesn't work? Does Cubase recognise the driver but you don't get any sound, or does Cubase not even recognise the driver? For your USB keyboard and microphone, do they use Windows drivers or ASIO drivers? If you follow Fender's comprehensive instructions for using Ableton with ASIO, can you get that to work? (Not that that is a solution, it's a useful comparative troubleshooting aid).

Regarding the XLR connection. Which volume control on the amp do you set to zero? Note the amp's "Master Volume" knob only (and deliberately so) affects the Mustang's power amp and speaker. The volume through the XLR sockets is controlled by the overall preset volume and the "line out boost" setting in the UTIL menu. See the Mustang Advanced Manual for full details of this, no point me retyping it all here.


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Post subject: Re: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:56 pm
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Hi Scott
Thanks for response !

Yes you are right The Mustang has need more attention than other AMP !

About the volume isn't from the amp but from the UR22, it's the Input volume of the UR22.
When he's to Zero nothing is heard with my other instruments ... But when i connect my Mustang with its XLR output to the input line of my UR22, the sound is still heard even to zero ( nothing to do with the Mustang) ...

It the real way to connect the XLR output to the UR22 ? I mean it's supposes to be good , no ?

About Cubase the driver FENDER UNIVERSAL ASIO is recognized but for unknow REASON ; NO SOUND !
I mean my guitar (Strat) is connect to the mustang & the mustang to my computer via its USB cable : but "NIET" like the ukrainians said !!

The mustang runs good in Fender fuse with USB cable , but there is no reason to not run in Cubase 7 ???
& Fender fuse doesn't appears in the "Insert effects" in Cubase like my others VST plugins ...Why ?
If Fender fuse was into my "INsert effect" in CUbase everything will be find (but no) .. do you have any idea ! ..

Any DLL files to manipulate Scott ?

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Post subject: Re: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:07 am
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Yes you are right The Mustang has need more attention than other AMP

Hmm, not sure I quite said that. It's perfectly possible to very easily get a wide variety of great sounds from the amp, without much 'attention' - my point is that there is plenty to tweak and experiment with you if you want to.

If the XLR issue is (as you say) with the UR22 then I can't comment, I know nothing about that device. Are you sure the input on the UR22 is designed to take a balanced signal, and that you have an appropriately wired connecting lead? Even a lead with XLR plugs on both ends can be legitimately connected in different ways. As a different test, you could use a simple 1/4" jack lead from your amp's fx-send to an unbalanced input on the UR22.

If Cubase recognises the Fender ASIO driver, that's a good start. Are you sure that driver is correctly configured as an input source for Cubase? It sounds obvious, but I've read other topics from people who thought they'd done that in their DAW and then found some subtle setting in the software that needed tweaking.

Further, note the Mustang's USB audio connection is one-way only: audio from amp to computer. You can't send audio back out to the amp over USB. If you're trying to do that you'll get silence. You need to monitor the sound on your PC separately - either with headphones or speakers attached to the PC, or you can connect your PC's line-out to the aux-in socket on the amp.

Fender FUSE has nothing to do with audio recording. It is software for configuring the amp. You won't see FUSE anywhere in Cubase. All you'll see in Cubase is the Fender ASIO driver as an audio input source.

No you should not have to mess with any DLLs. If you can run FUSE ok and have it talk to your amp, and if Cubase can see the Fender ASIO driver, it sounds like the software setup is all good.

One other point to mention. You may have to adjust the USB output level; this is independent of other volume controls on your Mustang. If the USB level is too low that could explain why you don't hear anything in Cubase (although out-of-the-box it should be set ok). You can do this in FUSE, in the Advanced amp panel, or directly on your amp by turning the 'Volume' knob (nb not 'Master Volume') while holding down the Exit button.


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Post subject: Re: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:24 am
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Segomil wrote:
Fender fuse doesn't appears in the "Insert effects" in Cubase like my others VST plugins ...Why ?
If Fender fuse was into my "INsert effect" in CUbase everything will be find (but no) .. do you have any idea ! ..

Any DLL files to manipulate Scott ?


Fender Fuse isn't a VST, that's why it doesn't show up as a VST. Fender Fuse is simply a utility for managing the Mustang Amp directly.

It sounds to me like you have a LOT of confusion going on here with all of the various pieces you have. If I were you I'd concentrate on ONE method which you want to work and get things working that way. Either focus on the direct USB connection or the XLR connection through your Steinberg unit. Chasing both at the same time confuses things.

If you want to go through the USB connection as you do with your mic and keyboard then I'd concentrate there. If the Fender ASIO driver has loaded and the computer itself (outside of Cubase) recognizes the device, then the problem is clearly inside the configuration of Cubase. Most DAW's have a general configuration setting that specifies whether you want to use ASIO drivers or Windows drivers (WDM) for your devices. You would have to (and should anyway) have this set to using ASIO drivers as they are the most accurate with the least processing because they bypass the majority of the operating system signal processing overhead. If I were to take a guess, which is the only option I've got now given the lack of detail about what's happening, I'd say you don't have the global setting on Cubase set to use ASIO for signal processing. But that's just a guess at this point.

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Post subject: Re: How to run my Mustang III v2 + UR22 interface in Cubase
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:04 pm
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I am having the same problem using a Focusritte 18i8 and Cubase Artist . I loaded the Fender asio driver and it does show up in Cubase so I put it as my asio driver instead of the Focusrite then I added in and output busses . Added and audio track and routed to the Fender input and outputs and it doesn't record anything . Looks like recording thru the usb is not an option for us Cubase users . The fender asio is seen and records fine using Audacity .So looks like its either mic the amp or run out the headphone jack into my mixer into the focusrite interface.

So I tried again and this time went into the Fender Asio control panel and set my focusrite 18i8 usb as the playback it now records and plays back but still not as good a sound as just using the Focusrite Asio so i have decided to just record straight into the the Focusrite interface and use a Bias FX plugin of amp modeling when recording.


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