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Post subject: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:13 am
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I picked up one of these little amps so I could play some in the living room and with headphones and I'm shocked at how great it sounds. It's been years since I had a "practice amp", and wow, have they come a long way! They used to sound like turd, but this one is great.

Particularly, the "57 Deluxe" setting is awesome. I'm assuming it's patterned of off the old Fender Deluxe of Neil Young fame. Well, it sounds like a beast and makes me want to get a "real" Deluxe. How closely does this model sound to a real Deluxe? I can only imagine that the real deal is much better.

Also, I looked at what Fender offers in this area and disappointingly, I see that the only thing is a "handwired" Deluxe head for $1900. What kind of crap is that? This is one of the simplest amps of all time, parts and design-wise. They must be making a mint off of these things, if anybody is foolish enough to buy them.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:50 pm
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spaceape wrote:
I picked up one of these little amps so I could play some in the living room and with headphones and I'm shocked at how great it sounds. It's been years since I had a "practice amp", and wow, have they come a long way! They used to sound like turd, but this one is great.

Particularly, the "57 Deluxe" setting is awesome. I'm assuming it's patterned of off the old Fender Deluxe of Neil Young fame. Well, it sounds like a beast and makes me want to get a "real" Deluxe. How closely does this model sound to a real Deluxe? I can only imagine that the real deal is much better.

Also, I looked at what Fender offers in this area and disappointingly, I see that the only thing is a "handwired" Deluxe head for $1900. What kind of crap is that? This is one of the simplest amps of all time, parts and design-wise. They must be making a mint off of these things, if anybody is foolish enough to buy them.


This is why it's so expensive. http://youtu.be/54sNv1Ck6dc

The manual labor.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:39 pm
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spaceape wrote:
I picked up one of these little amps so I could play some in the living room and with headphones and I'm shocked at how great it sounds. It's been years since I had a "practice amp", and wow, have they come a long way! They used to sound like turd, but this one is great.

Particularly, the "57 Deluxe" setting is awesome. I'm assuming it's patterned of off the old Fender Deluxe of Neil Young fame. Well, it sounds like a beast and makes me want to get a "real" Deluxe. How closely does this model sound to a real Deluxe? I can only imagine that the real deal is much better.

Also, I looked at what Fender offers in this area and disappointingly, I see that the only thing is a "handwired" Deluxe head for $1900. What kind of crap is that? This is one of the simplest amps of all time, parts and design-wise. They must be making a mint off of these things, if anybody is foolish enough to buy them.


This is why it's so expensive. http://youtu.be/54sNv1Ck6dc

The manual labor.


Man, really? I wish they would just make one with pcbs like they do the other ones so it could be cheaper. This should be about a $300 head.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:15 pm
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May want to give a Mustang III or IV a whirl.
Gig my III and it's reliable, easy to use in Live band settings and sounds very good.
I never liked SS amps until these came along. They're affordable and well made.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:19 am
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If you can use a soldering iron and a screw driver you can build your own deluxe clone. But it will cost you around $1000 for all the parts.

Or you could buy an already made clone and your looking at $1200 - $1500.

Hand wired or not, tube amps ain't cheap, but you are definitely paying a premium for the Fender logo.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:28 am
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Scorpaeon wrote:
If you can use a soldering iron and a screw driver you can build your own deluxe clone. But it will cost you around $1000 for all the parts.

Or you could buy an already made clone and your looking at $1200 - $1500.

Hand wired or not, tube amps ain't cheap, but you are definitely paying a premium for the Fender logo.


Yeah, I've looked at some clones, and those aren't cheap either, mainly because, once again, they are hand wired. But look at the new "pawn shop" Fender amps. They are fairly cheap tube power amps. I'm talking about a version of the Deluxe that is like that--cheaply made with pcbs and production line methods. The circuit is simple enough that they could crank them out for cheap and sell them for a great profit. I really don't care at all about paying for hand wired, point to point, labor intinsive amps. Just give me a cheap Deluxe, which is what Leo Fender designed them to be back in the 50's, not some cork sniffing boutique amp.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:54 am
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spaceape wrote:
I picked up one of these little amps so I could play some in the living room and with headphones and I'm shocked at how great it sounds. It's been years since I had a "practice amp", and wow, have they come a long way! They used to sound like turd, but this one is great.

Particularly, the "57 Deluxe" setting is awesome. I'm assuming it's patterned of off the old Fender Deluxe of Neil Young fame. Well, it sounds like a beast and makes me want to get a "real" Deluxe. How closely does this model sound to a real Deluxe? I can only imagine that the real deal is much better.


Not $1800 better. and try $3500 over here, if you can even find one...

A Std Blues Deluxe is $1200 here in Oz. I'm not spending that kind of dough.

Check the guy "In the Blues" YT channel. He loves Fender tubes to death and cannot believe how good the Mustang IIIs are, and how close they can get to the original tubes they're modelling. Probably not quite as good for the non Fender models. He rates the MI as a great PRACTICE amp, but the III is considered to be in another league.

I don't usually download presets on my MI as I haven't found any that sound great, but he's got some good experience. His overdriven '57 is seriously good even on the MI.

Anyone who thinks the tubes are far superior are listening with their eyes and years of preconceived biases.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:21 am
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If you love how it sounds, why worry? Maybe go for ll or lll for that larger speaker. Can you take yours down and do a side by side with "real" deluxe? A few years ago someone made recordings with real twin reverb (lusted after since a 65 was new....) and Mustangs take on same, and then had posters guess which was which. Results were about same as coin flips: 50/50. Maybe you can get some old tweed to put on your Mustang? That might give it enough oldie feel...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:05 am
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Emster 23 wrote:
If you love how it sounds, why worry? Maybe go for ll or lll for that larger speaker. Can you take yours down and do a side by side with "real" deluxe?..


+1.
Actually you could just go to Guitar Center and do a live comparison with a MIII and a Deluxe side by side if they have both in the store. That's what we did when we replaced our other guitarists amp a few months ago. If you take your time with the settings on both amps you're going to find, as we did, that it's very hard to tell the difference. Certainly not $1500 worth of difference.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I "57 Deluxe" preset
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:17 pm
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Hi, Thanx for your review of "57 Deluxe" , but there are so many presets with "57 Deluxe". Can you please put a link to that preset? Thank you again, Geoffrey


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