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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:14 am
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I'm going with B for the Mustang.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:05 am
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Yes. I don't use any factory or any other type of presets. I use the amp like a "real" amp. I simply pick the amp model I want for that song or jam session and adjust settings (gain and EQ) and effects (reverb, delay, overdrive pedal perhaps) according to what I want at that time.

I literally never leave the "basic amp" models that are 87-99 or whatever they are.

The amp performs wonderfully, IMO, as a real amp "plugged straight in" with just a touch of reverb or delay or whatever you want. No need for all the factory presets that seem to want to use all available slots for some effect.

I guess if I were gigging I might have about 6 different presets I'd be ready to use for slightly different lead or crunch or clean tones, but I don't need 100.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:18 am
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strings10927 wrote:
I think A is the Super and B is the Mustang. What do y'all think?


Agreed. I'm no expert, but the YouTube comments seem to make sense (for once)...B clearly has more low end, which you would expect from the 2x12 of the Mustang IV. I like both sounds, but in this case, I prefer the sound of A, but not enough to give up all the other conveniences that a modeling amp gives you.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:50 am
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Sterling Cadsteel, what are you looking for but not finding on the amp? Perhaps we can suggest a preset or 2 ....

It's not so much a matter of particular tones but simply navigating through all the dials correctly. For instance, I might find an amp model and when I try to tweak some aspect of the sound or tone I find myself in some sort of auto-wah or Ping-Pong delay or other. This navigation is what I probably need some hands-on help with. I'm not so intuitive with computers and such. But as for tones I would like to find a few good ones to start with and save them I guess. Something as close as possible to a warm tube tone for blues and a few progressively dirtier ones for playing around with would be good for a start. If I can get this guy's kid to get me started and I do buy the MIII it seems like this would be a good place to come back to for advice. Thank you everyone for all your help so far.


What I seem to be seeing is how to tweak the amp settings. For that, simply use the actual amp knobs. Keep in mind, they are inactive until you turn them. What this means is you may hear a jump in settings when you first turn the knob.

At first, the lcd screen shows the preset info. name, which amp model, and a list of the 5 fx slots. If a slot says empty, there is no effect of that type associated with this preset. If there is a name there and it's highlighted, there is an active effect as part of the preset. If there is a name there, but it's not highlighted, that effect is turned off.

To change presets, simply turn the big knob to the right of the screen aka the "data wheel". When you first turn it on, the amp is on preset 00. On my v1 MIII, that was liquid solo, until I changed it. ( now it's "My Bassman") Turn clockwise to scroll through the factory presets. If you turn it counter clockwise, it takes you directly to the basic amp models, starting with preset 99. These are just an amp model, dialled in to a typical sound. No fx on any of them. It's a good place to start looking.

To see the actual amp settings for a preset, press the amp button. This calls up pg1 of the amp settings to the lcd screen. To adjust: PRESS the data wheel. This highlights the first parameter ( gain), turn the data wheel to adjust gain to your taste. The wheel adjusts in .1 increments- for big changes, use the physical knob, it's faster. Press again to move on to volume. ** Volume adjusts the loudness of a preset in relation to the others. You can use this to your advantage to get a virtual solo boost, for example. It also makes the master volume more or less "jumpy" If a preset is giving you trouble, jumping from too quiet to too loud with a tiny twist of master vol, try lowering the volume to fix**

To go to pg2 of the amp settings, either hit the amp button again, or keep scrolling through the controls- it'll flip to page 2 at the end of the row. pg2 is where you'll find sag, bias, noise gate, and cab. The cab control can make all the difference to a preset. For example, I heard a lot of talk about the 2x12c cabinet model, so I gave it a try with my favorite bassman preset. I liked it so much, I added it to the preset.

One word of caution: If you do not press the data wheel after pressing the amp button, turning the wheel will scroll through the amp models. All is not lost! Just scroll to the amp you were on, and go from there. This is true for all the effect buttons, too-with one exception:

To turn off an effect that's active in a preset, press the appropriate button ( stomp, modulation, delay, or reverb). To turn it back on, or activate an effect that is part of a preset, but inactive, press the button. To CHANGE effects, or adjust fx settings, press and hold the button. From there, it works just like the amp settings. ie turn the data wheel to change fx. press the data wheel to edit parameters. It's actually easier to do than to explain, lol!

Best of all, any time you change something, the Save button lights up. This is to remind you that you have altered the preset, and to save the changes if you like them. Press twice to save.

For a warm bluesy tone, I'd suggest trying the Basic '59 Bassman preset, and pushing the gain and volume controls. Depending on what guitar you're using, rolling off the tone, and/or turning the bass knob up helps as well. This model also has a control called blend on pg2 of the amp settings. This adjusts the blend of the 2 bassman channels- as if you'd jumpered the two channel input jacks on a real bassman, and were adjusting the volume controls to balance them to taste. For that matter any of the fender "tweed" type models are good for a warm bluesy sound: 57 Champ, 57 deluxe, 57 twin, and 59 bassman. The Champ, in particular, will give you that boxy, lo-fi old school sound from vintage blues records. Try it with some room reverb, too!

I made my default preset a slightly crunchy bassman with some spring reverb. I also changed the cab model to the 2x12c. Because I'm oh so creative, I called it My Bassman, lol. With single coils, it's warm and still mostly cleanish. With P90's it's just tipping over the edge, and with 'buckers, it gives me a nice light bluesy crunch. I'm pretty darn amazed at just how NOT digital it sounds!

I made preset 01 my "clean" tone. '65 twin reverb w/a touch of compressor and spring reverb. Vintage tremolo is also present, but defaults to off. It's just not a vintage fender clean without tremolo! Now it's a 2 channel plug n play amp.

I also have a pedal board plugged in. Od, into a distortion in front; chorus, micro flanger, and analog delay in the loop. Most are off unless I need them, but the chorus is a mostly on all the time effect. ( just a light subtle swirl to add depth to cleans and thicken up dirty tones) The amp handles all the real pedals I can throw at it quite well.

Hope that helps. Sorry for the War and Peace length post, but there's a lot of good stuff in this amp.

Thank you very much, pyroman. I'm only sorry I can't pay you by the word. That is a ton of good info. I'm going down Sat when the youngster will be in to lend me a hand. We'll see what happens.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:03 am
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He should be posting the results soon. He waits for the view count on the video to get to a certain level first. The thing is, no matter what the results, both of the amps in the blind test sound great...so the point is already kind of made.

The view count has surpassed and I clearly hear one that sounded better to me; just curious as subjective as this is.

Well, coming back today with fresh ears because I was playing a lot yesterday, they both sound good. I still like B better and my bet is it is the Mustang. I have been fooled before though in these blind tests thinking that this cannot be the Stang when indeed it was. In this case there is over a $1000.00 dollar price differential between these two amps.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:12 pm
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Re: The comparison I heard a difference. Like them both but have no clue what is what.

Re the question. So far I start with one of the presets and change it on the amp using the amp controls. Even though I have had my M3 for a few weeks I really haven't had the time to dive into Fuse or saving presets. I was sick for a week and have been really busy so what guitar time I have had I have been practicing/studying. In time I will save the tones I like in the low numbers. Basically it's been one of the Fender amps from the 80's or 90's range and I just fiddle with the gain, volume and tone controls.

One of the more fun things I have done is play really load on some of the "freaky" presets when my family is annoying me. Some of them are horrid sounding(could never be my playing ability :lol: ). I think the programmer was taking something.

Loving the amp.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:53 pm
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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:50 am
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Just last week I finally connected my amp to the computer and changed every factory preset. Main reason was so that as I'm flipping through the presets I don't get blasted by some annoying heavy metal sound. No offense to you head bangers, just not my style!


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:52 pm
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Sterling Cadsteel wrote:
strings10927 wrote:
Sterling Cadsteel, what are you looking for but not finding on the amp? Perhaps we can suggest a preset or 2 ....

It's not so much a matter of particular tones but simply navigating through all the dials correctly. For instance, I might find an amp model and when I try to tweak some aspect of the sound or tone I find myself in some sort of auto-wah or Ping-Pong delay or other. This navigation is what I probably need some hands-on help with. I'm not so intuitive with computers and such. But as for tones I would like to find a few good ones to start with and save them I guess. Something as close as possible to a warm tube tone for blues and a few progressively dirtier ones for playing around with would be good for a start. If I can get this guy's kid to get me started and I do buy the MIII it seems like this would be a good place to come back to for advice. Thank you everyone for all your help so far.

I went back out this week-end after downloading a complete manual and after fooling around for a long while decided to buy the Mustang III. I haven't gotten too far into it yet but now I know there is a lot of potential there. I hope to have a lot of fun with it. Thanks for your help.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:59 am
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thoman23 wrote:
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Where can I find the settings from "intheblues"? Sounds like something I might be very interested in.


Here's his YouTube channel as a start: https://www.youtube.com/user/intheblues

His demos of the Mustang and his blind tests are what convinced me to buy the MIII.

You can find his 4 Mustang presets by going to fuse.fender.com, and after logging in, search the presets for "intheblues". You should see his 4 tones that you can then download to your harddrive, which can then be added to your amp.

O.K. an old guy type of question here: How do I get the pre-set from a folder on my desktop into the amp when it is connected to Fuse? Will I be prompted to pick a location to store it? (i.e.: Pre-Set 1-100?)


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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:38 am
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How do I get the pre-set from a folder on my desktop into the amp when it is connected to Fuse? Will I be prompted to pick a location to store it? (i.e.: Pre-Set 1-100?)

There's probably more than one way to do it, here's what works for me:

1. Connect the amp to the computer via USB

2. Turn on the amp

3. Start Fender FUSE

4. Click the Import button at the top of the Fuse window

5. Browse to your desktop

6. Click to select the preset file you downloaded, and then click Open

7. Select which items you want to import from the preset (Amp Settings, FX Settings, Band Settings, or any combination)

8. Click OK

9. Now click Media Library in the upper right of the window

10. Make sure Computer is selected in the Media Library (not the search buttons at the very top, the buttons that are next to where it says 'Media Library')

11. Locate the preset you imported in the list

12. Click to select the preset. Then right-click the preset and choose Save Preset to Amp...

13. In the Choose Location dialog box, specify a new name (if desired) and choose what preset number should be overwritten with the downloaded preset.

14. Click OK.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone else not using the factory presets?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:45 am
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Thanks, Strings. I will give it a try.


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