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Post subject: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:55 pm
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Had a st patty's day party last night at the local bar we play at. The friggin place was packed. (capacity 125) tight quarters.Medium sized stage. 4 piece band. Had to test the new Mustang IV. This thing cut through the air like a hot knife through butter. Really great controlled feedback. Just a nice punchy sound all night. I have the preset on Fender Twin. All clean. I use the ME-70 pedal for all the effects. Never had the pleasure to crank that thing up before. Loving this amp more and more.

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Post subject: Re: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:31 pm
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Know the feeling :)
These amps open up nicely at loud volumes... and if you need to keep the volumes lower.. they still sound good!
Been gigging my III... love this amp.
Using the onboard effects inside the Mustang... with the exception of my CryBaby... which this amp takes well.
Have the 4 button set to mode 3 (stomp mode)... get to use the effects just like a pedalboard. YES... controlled feedback is fun with these... Great to go between Marshall and Fender amp sounds with the click of a footswitch... and to have a great Lead Tone dialed in at the click of a button as well. Extremely versatile amps.
Very happy with my III. Keep Rockin' the Dog with your IV.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:26 am
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Cool. What was the set list?

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Post subject: Re: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:40 am
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the MIV is a whole lotta amp...

I have a III and a IV, the three is kids stuff next to the IV


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Post subject: Re: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:19 pm
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Strat-Slinger wrote:
Know the feeling :)
These amps open up nicely at loud volumes... and if you need to keep the volumes lower.. they still sound good!
Been gigging my III... love this amp.
Using the onboard effects inside the Mustang... with the exception of my CryBaby... which this amp takes well.
Have the 4 button set to mode 3 (stomp mode)... get to use the effects just like a pedalboard. YES... controlled feedback is fun with these... Great to go between Marshall and Fender amp sounds with the click of a footswitch... and to have a great Lead Tone dialed in at the click of a button as well. Extremely versatile amps.
Very happy with my III. Keep Rockin' the Dog with your IV.


Never considered the versatility of the 4 button switch. I had just gotten the ME-70 foot pedal before the Mustang and at 300 dollars figured I better put it to use :mrgreen: Glad yours is kickin it for you.

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Post subject: Re: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:22 pm
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Skirt So Plain wrote:
Cool. What was the set list?

Set list was some Blackberry Smoke(restless)
ZZ Top, Lagrange,Sharp dressed man,
One Republic.
typical classic rock stuff.

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Post subject: Re: PLayed to a really crowded bar last night
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:07 am
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Just wondering what your preset was for BlackBerry Smoke sound?


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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:47 pm
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I've said it before and I'll say it again... unless you play stadiums, the Mustang IV really could be the first and last amp you would ever need!

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:04 am
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Tiger J wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again... unless you play stadiums, the Mustang IV really could be the first and last amp you would ever need!


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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:20 am
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I think you just discovered what some of us in here have known for a while. Although the Mustang is a REALLY fun amp to play with, unlike some of the other modeling amps out there it absolutely SHINES when you play it live. In my experience it is the difference maker between your band's sound and most other bands.

The clarity and accuracy of the models is what really caught me, particularly when playing live. When you play a classic rock song, the guitar sounds like it's supposed to sound because it's based on a Marshall or Hi Watt stack. But if your next song is a traditional blues song, that's when heads turn because now your band sounds like a whole new band with the guitar sounding like a Deluxe Reverb or Princeton. Likewise when you transition to a country or jazz number. It not only makes you sound better, it makes the whole band sound better because it creates the right tone and sound for the music. I was doing this with a Line6 Spyder for a long time, but it doesn't stick out like it does with a Mustang. In my opinion the Line6 was just a toy compared to the Mustang.

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:49 am
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dunedindragon wrote:
I think you just discovered what some of us in here have known for a while. Although the Mustang is a REALLY fun amp to play with, unlike some of the other modeling amps out there it absolutely SHINES when you play it live. In my experience it is the difference maker between your band's sound and most other bands.

The clarity and accuracy of the models is what really caught me, particularly when playing live. When you play a classic rock song, the guitar sounds like it's supposed to sound because it's based on a Marshall or Hi Watt stack. But if your next song is a traditional blues song, that's when heads turn because now your band sounds like a whole new band with the guitar sounding like a Deluxe Reverb or Princeton. Likewise when you transition to a country or jazz number. It not only makes you sound better, it makes the whole band sound better because it creates the right tone and sound for the music. I was doing this with a Line6 Spyder for a long time, but it doesn't stick out like it does with a Mustang. In my opinion the Line6 was just a toy compared to the Mustang.


Yep. This is my favorite part of the forum because it has the smartest regular participants. LOL. If you go over to the main forum and try to say one good thing about a mustang amp, even the AMAZING M4, you will immediately get bombarded with "modeling amps are garbage" from guys who admit they have never tried the mustang and the last SS amp they tried was a Line 6 in 1994. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm not in a band but I have done a few open mics solo, including one where I got really loud and played Nirvana stuff on purpose because it's that kind of place (the very reason I went there was to be able to turn my amp up for once) and I had only 8 people watching me and even there everybody (the ones who play) wanted to know "what amp is that???!??" (this was with my v1 M4 BTW, which has no fizz and never did have any fizz).

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:22 pm
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You'll be impressed with it for a long time :) Then you'll suddenly realize you use up to 5 or 10 max presets per guitar at most, with a couple of them being actually same versions just with a boost for lead, so even less different sounds. Then you'll say, why not go for a tube amp. I liked the M, have no bad things to say about it (I had it for 2 years and a half or so) so don't get me wrong. But when the other guitarist in my band was using a tube amp (a good old Deluxe Reverb), I heard the difference. The M is a very solid amp and you won't notice a difference if you are the only guitarist in the band or if the other guitarist is also using a solid state/modelling amp (this was the case for me, first I was the only guitarist, then the new guitarist also had M, the M3 (I had M4), then he started playing a tube, so I've been through all the stages lol). But when it's head to head vs a tube amp, you will notice it.

As for the array of sounds - I was thinking of buying a MFX unit (first the Mustang Floor, then I was leaning towards the Boss GT series) to cover all that and get the 'best of both worlds'. I was talking to my guitar teacher as well and he said one simple thing that made things very clear for me "What's the most distinctive thing for all the best guitarists like Slash, Knopfler, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Gilmour, etc.? Their tone". Couldn't have said it better. When you hear any one of these (and others, of course, I didn't name all and I don't remember all the ones he listed), you know it's them based on their tone already. They don't use 1000 tones. They use 2 or 3 they're known for.
But anyway, if you are mostly playing covers and are the only guitarist or the other guitarist(s) don't use a tube amp, Mustang will do a very good job and it will serve you well :) It's loud enough and a best amp in this price range, no doubt about it. As for how well it imitates certain amps - I wrote a bit more extensive post in this section where I compared the Mustang's SuperSonic model and the SuperSonic 60 that I bought (which replaced my M). Sadly I couldn't do a straight on comparison with a video and whatnot, but I tried to be as objective as possible.

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Neimenljivi wrote:
But when the other guitarist in my band was using a tube amp (a good old Deluxe Reverb), I heard the difference. The M is a very solid amp and you won't notice a difference if you are the only guitarist in the band or if the other guitarist is also using a solid state/modelling amp (this was the case for me, first I was the only guitarist, then the new guitarist also had M, the M3 (I had M4), then he started playing a tube, so I've been through all the stages lol). But when it's head to head vs a tube amp, you will notice it.


Oddly, I've had exactly the opposite experience. The other guitar player in our band plays a Supersonic, and he's the one looking to go to a Mustang now. The key may be in your saying "I heard the difference". I think it has to do with what the audience is hearing. Certainly his supersonic has a good sound, but it's so limited that very often he has a problem easily blending in with the variety of material we cover. That's what the audience hears and what he's trying to correct. Well that and the fact his reverb has been fixed 4 times and still doesn't work right... :lol:

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Well as I said, if you are looking to get your own signature tone, then the M won't really do you much good - or at least there are better sounding amps to do it. If you are looking to cover a vast array of sounds (which many cover bands are), then the M or any MFX unit in front of any amp will do the trick better. I can't speak for the SS22, but the SS60 is a very versatile amp as well. With the FX loop tick, you can have an instant booster for solos. Burn channel can cover anything from blues to hard rock (and if you don't want to mess with EQ during a set onstage, you can use your guitar volume to go from mild bluesy overdrive to full on hard rock sound). When I switched to the SS60, I bought a tuner (didn't have a foot tuner before and got accustomed to using it due to M4's foot tuner) and a wah. Will be buying a delay unit, a chorus unit and a power tank shortly (but will have to try them out first, of course) to further get my sound where I want, but that's it (well at least until GAS kicks in again :lol: ). If his reverb has been giving him troubles then poor luck. I'd probably be very disappointed with the amp if it had been giving me troubles as well. But I have had no real problems with it yet (well one minor issue, but it wasn't even audible during the recording sessions after listening back to my guitar track, so all good) and am loving it :) Our band isn't looking to sound like someone else though, so we don't have that problem, we have our tones so the audience doesn't have a problem with someone not blending in with the variety of tones as we keep it pretty basic :P

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:07 pm
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Neimenljivi wrote:
You'll be impressed with it for a long time :) Then you'll suddenly realize you use up to 5 or 10 max presets per guitar at most, with a couple of them being actually same versions just with a boost for lead, so even less different sounds. Then you'll say, why not go for a tube amp. I liked the M, have no bad things to say about it (I had it for 2 years and a half or so) so don't get me wrong. But when the other guitarist in my band was using a tube amp (a good old Deluxe Reverb), I heard the difference. The M is a very solid amp and you won't notice a difference if you are the only guitarist in the band or if the other guitarist is also using a solid state/modelling amp (this was the case for me, first I was the only guitarist, then the new guitarist also had M, the M3 (I had M4), then he started playing a tube, so I've been through all the stages lol). But when it's head to head vs a tube amp, you will notice it.

As for the array of sounds - I was thinking of buying a MFX unit (first the Mustang Floor, then I was leaning towards the Boss GT series) to cover all that and get the 'best of both worlds'. I was talking to my guitar teacher as well and he said one simple thing that made things very clear for me "What's the most distinctive thing for all the best guitarists like Slash, Knopfler, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Gilmour, etc.? Their tone". Couldn't have said it better. When you hear any one of these (and others, of course, I didn't name all and I don't remember all the ones he listed), you know it's them based on their tone already. They don't use 1000 tones. They use 2 or 3 they're known for.
But anyway, if you are mostly playing covers and are the only guitarist or the other guitarist(s) don't use a tube amp, Mustang will do a very good job and it will serve you well :) It's loud enough and a best amp in this price range, no doubt about it. As for how well it imitates certain amps - I wrote a bit more extensive post in this section where I compared the Mustang's SuperSonic model and the SuperSonic 60 that I bought (which replaced my M). Sadly I couldn't do a straight on comparison with a video and whatnot, but I tried to be as objective as possible.

With all due respect, I disagree with most of what you said. :) I have had *many* different tube amps over the years and am always looking for the holy grail of tone along with eight Deluxe Reverbs and two right now in mint condition looking for a home as I write this.

The Stangs come dang close and even *better* at lower volume along with being lighter, cheaper, and I don't have to spend $175.00 every few years replacing tubes. To be able to go from a clean Twin to a Marshall to a Deluxe to a Princeton along with a full array of effects with a single click on a foot switch is the icing on the cake.

I have got my signature name on these tones because of the way I play not from what amp I am playing. Fender nailed it when you do an overall comparative analysis along with what you get and yes there is some trade off. I choose the Mustang and I pride myself on being able to differentiate the difference and I have been blessed with good ears. You would not believe how many of these famous guitarists cannot even hear anymore because of the extreme loud volumes they need to get that tube tone.

You state that these guitar heroes have only a few tones. No way! They use many tones and they only wished their road crew could handle more options and the expense of maintaining fragile tube amps on the road.

Jimi would be all over using a Stang; enough said.

Can you tell I own stock on the whole Mustang line? Pony up! :D

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