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Post subject: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:30 pm
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Hey,

i'm looking for a distortion/overdrive pedal that works well with a mustang I. Any recommendations? going into a mustang i with a mexican strat


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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:16 pm
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The Mustang won't give you controlled break-up like a tube/valve amp. So anything with overdrive will be pretty useless other than to bump the volume. Better get an electronic distortion pedal, that actually distorts the signal and doesn't leave that to the amp.
TC Electronic has a couple. The Rottweiler (a nod to the Rothwell pedals) might be overkill, as it goes from "way too much" on the lowest setting and up from there, but the Dark Matter might be a good choice.

For fuzz, well, the same applies. If it fuzzes without boosting and doesn't depend on the amp to break in a harmonic way, it should be good. Some of the amp models don't work well with fuzz, though - including most of the "clean" ones. So you may have a bit of trial and error.

I now use a Spaceman Sputnik for both overdrive and fuzz, and it does okay with the Mustang. It does better with tube amps, but at least it's not horrible with the Mustang.


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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:54 pm
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in short, don't use pedal as a booster, I think everything would work fine to mustang if you keep your pedal output at unity gain, for distortion I'm using Boss BD-2 & Fuzz Face (clone), and it work fine, but you couldn't use it as booster to your amp, there will be digital distortion that sound really bad.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:51 am
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I have a question, why would you want to use a external pedal or stomp box for fuzz or distortion when these effects are part of the amp? I bought a Cry Baby to use with my M III because I just could not get the sound I was looking for with the on board wah effects. Is it the same with the fuzz or distortion?

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:41 am
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I tried my TS9 with my Mustang III and it sounded as good as it always does. It never stays on my pedal board though, because I can get everything I need right off the amp, and I have other stomp boxes I'd rather have available.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:33 am
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omar59 wrote:
I have a question, why would you want to use a external pedal or stomp box for fuzz or distortion when these effects are part of the amp? I bought a Cry Baby to use with my M III because I just could not get the sound I was looking for with the on board wah effects. Is it the same with the fuzz or distortion?

For me … flexibility.

I have a Mustang II so limited to the 2 Presets/one footswitch scenario. Having an external OD and a Rat allows me to make get more use out of a single preset. I also find that the Blackbox (RAT) stomp on the amp though REALLY close especially on rhythms, isn’t quite as smooth on leads as the real deal (yes… it’s a current RAT 2 so some may poo poo my “real deal” label). The RAT is one of my favorite stomps so for me it just makes sense to be able to easily add it whenever I want and have the dials right there in the flesh. I also had a Tubescreamer clone but I A/B’d that with the Greenbox and it was so close it wasn’t worth keeping so exchanged that for my OCD clone. I now have a fairly clean 65 Deluxe preset on one footswitch setting and alternate between the same preset with the Greenbox Addeed or bluesy sounding 59 Bassman on the other footswitch setting. Works well for me. There’s also the one stompbox thing to consider. If you want to have a fuzz followed by an OD you simply can’t.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:22 pm
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lol, I guess it's my turn to be the grumpy old man.

Jeez, what's up with all of the pedal/Mustang threads?? There's another one asking this exact question just two or three threads down... Do we need a sticky or something? Seriously, we've answered this frequently, and at length- why not do some reading?

See, now you made me do it... I hate search nazi type posts. NO GOOD TONE FOR YOU!!! THREE DAYS!!

Anywho-for Omar, the reason(s) many of us like to use pedals with our Mustangs:

a) We prefer to use it more like a regular amp. IE find a good base sound, or sounds, and use that most of the time. Then layer on or adjust with pedals as needed.

b) We're "analog" people, and are more comfortable using a real pedal(board) while playing, than having to constantly fiddle with the amp controls, or worse keep a computer handy to do it. Also, it is more intuitive for many to have a physical pedal with physical knobs to adjust.

c) flavor, as you suggested. Sometimes you want to add your own flavors and spices, rather than what someone else chose. NOT a knock on Fender or any other modeller- they simply can't put every conceivable different dirt box on one amp.

d) because we HAVE/ had them already.

Those are most of mine, I'm sure others have theirs as well.

For the OP- check out the other Mustang/pedal thread a few down for my answer. I'm far too lazy to type that all out again.


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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:33 pm
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pyroman wrote:
lol, I guess it's my turn to be the grumpy old man.

Jeez, what's up with all of the pedal/Mustang threads?? There's another one asking this exact question just two or three threads down... Do we need a sticky or something? Seriously, we've answered this frequently, and at length- why not do some reading?


For the OP- check out the other Mustang/pedal thread a few down for my answer. I'm far too lazy to type that all out again.

the OP of this thread also started the one you are referring to a few threads down.
Not sure what info wasn't covered in the other thread but oh well. Yeah there's plenty of pedal threads to say the least. I've probably posted the same BS in half of them :lol:

And i totally agree with your A,B, and C's... physical knobs are way better than mouse clicks... guess i'm getting old too.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:45 am
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omar59 wrote:
I have a question, why would you want to use a external pedal or stomp box for fuzz or distortion when these effects are part of the amp? I bought a Cry Baby to use with my M III because I just could not get the sound I was looking for with the on board wah effects. Is it the same with the fuzz or distortion?

For me, some of built digital in effect won't be sounding as good as the real and analog pedal effect, like fuzz face and blues driver that won't be able to obtained with mustang, and combining sound of pedal and mustang modeling amp would give some unique sound, and I'm using Vox V845 just because MII didn't support expression pedal.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:35 am
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Last night I was playing around with a preset I created using the fuzz stomp and the 57 Champ at a respectable volume. Was never a huge fan of the fuzz stomp as it doesn't seem to do the Fuzz Face well but I don't think its modeling that. On its own, my preset was decent and had some fun. However, once I paired it with my OD pedal set to mild gain wow. Kicked the preset I had on the Red footswitch setting right off. Its about as close to screaming Fuzz Face as I've been able to get. Loving the Champ right now too

Definitely a case where yes an external pedal comes in real handy

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:39 am
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Thank you for the replies. I am new to guitar(a little over a year) so I have no analog or tube experience. Though I am older, I have worked with computers and programming since 1979, so I am comfortable with digital. I respect analog and do understand that some sounds just can't be produced any other way, hence the Cry Baby. I expect to find more examples as I gain more experience.

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Post subject: Re: Good pedals that work with a Mustang I
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:58 pm
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Here's a list of all the built in Amps and StompBoxes...
http://notelr.com/roheylivne/The-Definitive-Fender-FUSE-List


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