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Post subject: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:35 pm
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My expression pedal volume is too low at the toe all the way up position when compared to when i turn pedal volume to off,is this normal or is there something wrong with my expression pedal settings?

I also can hear my guitar at a very low volume when the pedal is on at heel down position? I did a pedal reset calibration and there is no change? Can anyone tell me if this is normal or do i have a possible problem with my expression pedal?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:21 am
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It sounds like the calibration failed. It took a couple of tries for me the first time I did it. This post helped:

scott-uk wrote:
The calibration procedure in the PDF manual is wrong. Fender have published an updated procedure:
http://www.fender.com/en-GB/support/art ... ion-pedal/

which says:

The EXP-1 expression pedal calibration procedure is as follows:

-Press and hold UTIL while powering on, UTIL LED should light up for 1 second.
-Move the expression pedal between the desired heel and toe endpoints to set the range.
-Turn the encoder knob to the next Preset to complete the process.

The way that worked for me was exactly as follows:

1. Move expression pedal to the center position (between heel and toe).

2. Turn the amp off (if necessary)

3. Press and hold UTIL and turn the amp on (watch for the UTIL button to flash for a second)

4. Move the expression pedal in one smooth motion to the heel position, and then move it in one smooth motion to the toe position

5. Turn the encoder knob to the next Preset

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:53 pm
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go into your pedal parameters...
ie press the pedal button... 2x and make sure the value is at 1.0
press it again and make sure the value is at 10.0

I also can hear slight volume when pedal is heel down...
mine has to do the the little rubber stoppers on the bottom of the pedal...
if you press down slightly on the heel and hold it the volume goes completely away because it compresses the rubber stoppers. When you release it the rubber returns to it original shape and there by presses the pedal back up slightly...
this is my issue... YMMV ;)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:12 am
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mojo_plasma wrote:
I also can hear slight volume when pedal is heel down...

I did too until I properly calibrated the pedal. Now it's silent with the heal down.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:28 am
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I did the calibration procedure as strings10927 suggested and the heel down exp pedal guitar volume goes away only if i apply pressure on the exp pedal heel down position(it did not do that before the calibration) but the volume is still low in the toe up position compared to when pedal is set to off position?

I still think this is not normal and when the expression pedal is at full toe up position it should be just as loud as when the pedal volume is set to the off position?

Maybe someone from fender can answer my question?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:13 am
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Hmmm interesting. I don't have that issue ... yeah maybe Fender TSL can clear it up.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:07 pm
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Metalman50 wrote:
I did the calibration procedure as strings10927 suggested and the heel down exp pedal guitar volume goes away only if i apply pressure on the exp pedal heel down position(it did not do that before the calibration) but the volume is still low in the toe up position compared to when pedal is set to off position?

I still think this is not normal and when the expression pedal is at full toe up position it should be just as loud as when the pedal volume is set to the off position?

Maybe someone from fender can answer my question?


Be sure you are not holding down the pedal with any pressure during the calibration procedure. If you are you may be compressing the rubber stops.
If that don't help a dirty work around might be... when you press the pedal back, heel down (min volume) move it back towards (volume up) toe down ever so slightly... then press the button to accept. This will give it a little negative travel. You will lose some sweep... but it should be minor.
I think that would work for your volume not turning off all the way.

as far as the loudness issue.. make double sure you don't have a custom sweep set up.
i.e. In the pedal menu... you have the option to make the heel down and toe down stop before it reaches 100%.
It seems like there is an option somewhat akin to this in the utility menu also.

Is this happening on all your patches or just certain ones?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:29 am
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Hi Metalman50,

Thanks to strings10927 and mojo_plasma for chiming in on this one. Metalman50, we wanted to see you have things sorted out here at this point, or perhaps need some additional assistance. Please let us know if we can help.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:57 pm
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I changed some additional pedal settings in the utility menu and the volume is a little better(it is closer to the full volume when pedal is set to off position but it is still louder when the expression pedal is set to the off position?) The difference in volume is not as much as it was before i tweaked the pedal volume settings but it seems to vary with different presets and amp models?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:30 pm
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Hi Metalman50,

Just checking in here. You may want to check if the Heel and Toe settings vary from Preset to Preset in the EXP-1 Settings window. Please let us know if we can assist further from our end.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:02 am
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it is still louder when the expression pedal is set to the off position

There can be only four reasons for this. Either you aren't doing the calibration properly (eg you aren't moving the pedal to the same end points when calibrating it as you do when using it); or the volume settings in the pedal config in FUSE aren't correct for what you want (eg it sounds as though you want 0 and 100: fully off and fully on); or you inadvertently have the pedal controlling the wrong effect parameter (again, in the FUSE pedal settings window); or your pedal is faulty (eg it is not consistently sending the amp the same control signal at its endpoints; unlikely I think, from what I've seen reported of pedal problems, if it were faulty it would fail more seriously). Five minutes systematic diagnosis should determine which. I suggest you very methodically look at each of the above in turn until you identify the culprit.

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it seems to vary with different presets and amp model

Yes, the pedal settings are per-preset. So each preset can have different pedal behaviour - and almost certainly will be different unless you explicitly make them all the same. But this is a different issue to your first point. Are you in fact having two different problems, or is the perceived pedal behaviour all down to just one of these issues?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:33 pm
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I do not think there is a fix yet for the expression volume problem unless i am still missing something?

I recalibrated the pedal again and at first it seemed good,the expression pedal volume was almost as loud as when it was set to the pedal off position but after i sweep the pedal from heel down to toe up a few times the volume was back to how it was before at the lower volume fully toe up position compared to the louder pedal off setting?

If someone else with a mustang floor can switch to the pedal off setting and then set it to the on position and sweep there pedal from the heel to toe position and tell me if they can hear any volume difference?

If anyone here with a mustang floor or someone from fender can help me set the expression pedal for full volume at max level that is the same as the pedal off volume level,please let me know?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:38 am
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strange indeed!
I don't know what the floor has "under the hood" as far as parts...
But if this were an old pedal with a pot inside... I would suspect the pot is working loose and it turns as the pedal is moved.
It sounds like something could be loose on the inside.
That would make it work correctly after calibration then begin to gradually loose it place.
just a thought...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor Expression Pedal Volume Too Low?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:55 am
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I do not think there is a fix yet for the expression volume problem

All expression pedal problems I've ever seen reported, have eventually been fixed. Even if it meant Fender swapping a faulty unit. At this point I agree with mojo_plasma; if your unit's calibration is 'drifting' like this, it points to a hardware problem. Suggest you contact Fender directly for their assistance.


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