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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:48 am
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Have you tried launching it on XP? I’ve seen several threads where folks mention they’re running fuse on XP. Including this one.

I mentioned in another thread about setting windows to adjust for best performance in the advanced settings tab. This works very well for windows XP as well. It is a standard tweak that is done on Avid Media Composer Editing systems and Protools systems running on windows based systems.

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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59 am
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Her Wanna wrote:
don't have $1,000 to buy new computer


$349 for a laptop through Dell or your local electronics chain store and you're set.

If you don't want to buy a PC (which I can understand) then ask your local Fender dealer if they can do the upgrade for you in-store or ask a friend to come over with their laptop.


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:24 am
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Her Wanna wrote:
I need latest firmware on my amp. I don't need fuse at all.


These are 2 conflicting statements. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:09 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
Her Wanna wrote:
I need latest firmware on my amp. I don't need fuse at all.


These are 2 conflicting statements. :wink:


Not if fender didn't bundle it. All I need is for the basic amp models to sound as good as possible and the foot switch to switch effects or models with no delay or volume drop.


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:19 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
I ordered my new M3 v2. :P :P :P :P :P Getting a jump on things: will it come immediately needing updated firmware like the v1 did in 2011? I don't see any firmware sticky links at the top.

I'm talking about firmware to make the amp perfect. I don't care about FUSE, at all. I'm talking about the amp's operation.

(Like for v1, originally the foot pedal had a brief silent period between switching settings, and a firmware update fixed that.)

I don't see any links for new firmware at the top here. ???


Your new mustang will come either with firmware 2.0 or 2.1 (there are no other versions for the version 2 mustangs). Even if it comes with version 2, not upgrading to v2.1 is not really a problem, v2.1 added some minor option to the placement of the effect loops and an adjustment for the correctness of the champ cab if I remember correctly, but for the rest is pretty much the same as 2.0, so worry not :)

in the other hand I do not see Fender coming up with any new firmwares unless some catastrophic bug appears, which is unlikely at this point. Their software developers are more likely centred working in the next generation of products....

by the way, does anybody else can imagine Fender unveiling a new Floor version at NAMM 2014?


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:24 am
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jedi2b wrote:
Her Wanna wrote:
I ordered my new M3 v2. :P :P :P :P :P Getting a jump on things: will it come immediately needing updated firmware like the v1 did in 2011? I don't see any firmware sticky links at the top.

I'm talking about firmware to make the amp perfect. I don't care about FUSE, at all. I'm talking about the amp's operation.

(Like for v1, originally the foot pedal had a brief silent period between switching settings, and a firmware update fixed that.)

I don't see any links for new firmware at the top here. ???


Your new mustang will come either with firmware 2.0 or 2.1 (there are no other versions for the version 2 mustangs). Even if it comes with version 2, not upgrading to v2.1 is not really a problem, v2.1 added some minor option to the placement of the effect loops and an adjustment for the correctness of the champ cab if I remember correctly, but for the rest is pretty much the same as 2.0, so worry not :)

in the other hand I do not see Fender coming up with any new firmwares unless some catastrophic bug appears, which is unlikely at this point. Their software developers are more likely centred working in the next generation of products....

by the way, does anybody else can imagine Fender unveiling a new Floor version at NAMM 2014?



cool thanks so basically they nearly got it right this time. I guess I should know that corrections made last time would already be in the new one (like the footswitch hesitation which was IMO a big flaw...)

anyway I get my M3 today... can't wait

I'll let you guys know my thoughts -- comparison to M4v1 that I've had for 2.5 years and used heavily.... keeping in mind that new M3 needs speaker break-in I'm sure.

I'm super fired up just about the new basic models, which, again, is my main thing I like about these amps. Not to mention new stomps other than some unnamed "overdrive" and "fuzz".

17 amps in one that sound good..... when it came down to it I could not imagine paying $900 for ONE tone in the real princeton.

perhaps one day but not now.... mustang is better for what I do NOW, which is learn, play at home, and mess around with different tones to create "alt take" tracks of the same songs


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:45 pm
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Hi Jedi,
jedi2b wrote:

in the other hand I do not see Fender coming up with any new firmwares
unless some catastrophic bug appears, which is unlikely at this point.


too comfortable doing so.

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Their software developers are more likely centred working in the next generation of products....


and as you may have guessed by now all, that is the policy that really makes me angry.
As I have already said some time ago ..
because it is the exact opposite of some of their colleagues, although even Roland has the same type of behavior quite outdated as we are in the era of software updates (among other things, without the need of a technician), app. , Etc..

I can understand in the '80s when you had a TV (CRT) that worked thanks to the electronic boards and updating consisted of hardware changes that were obviously made ​​in the next model.
But nowadays it's a matter of will .. <<I want or do not want to create such a software upgrade, I want devote time and resources to that purpose or decide it is not worth it.>>


A short time ago in my post titled "A new update?" I was wondering exactly when and if we would have seen a good update with new features as well as some new model (amp / stomp / effect).
Fortunately that post, born from (my) dissatisfaction, has turned into a pleasant conversation, which lasted some days, between fans (myself included) of Pink Floyd.


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:23 am
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As a company that produces software/hardware bundled products as Fender (in the case of the Mustang series) there might be only a few reasons why they would like to invest time and money on new updates:

-if a major flaw appears, coming up with an update is the easy and cheap way of avoiding bad reputation for their products
-If the competition comes up with a new product, and Fender is not ready to come up with a new line of products, adding features via updates is the easy way to counteract the competition in an easy and cheap way

Given that none of those two reasons are true right now, actually Fender has all the motivation NOT to come up with updates, not only because it costs money and has no real incentive for them (the amps sell well as they are right now) but because adding features to an existing consumable product as the mustangs will prevent consumerist users to move to the next product when it comes out.


Most of the code maintenance for companies like Fender (that require software incidentally but are not really software companies) is done in China and India by multi-purpose code development firms. Fender needs a real economic incentive to spend money paying those companies.

I know it might be hard to listen for some, but this is all strictly about money. You want free and frequent updates: try free software. Difference is in that case is love for they product which motivates developers (or the possibility of selling their product in the future!)


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Post subject: Re: New M3 v2 Ordered. Firmware?
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:27 am
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frondizi wrote:
Hi Jedi,
jedi2b wrote:

in the other hand I do not see Fender coming up with any new firmwares
unless some catastrophic bug appears, which is unlikely at this point.


too comfortable doing so.

Quote:
Their software developers are more likely centred working in the next generation of products....


and as you may have guessed by now all, that is the policy that really makes me angry.
As I have already said some time ago ..
because it is the exact opposite of some of their colleagues, although even Roland has the same type of behavior quite outdated as we are in the era of software updates (among other things, without the need of a technician), app. , Etc..

I can understand in the '80s when you had a TV (CRT) that worked thanks to the electronic boards and updating consisted of hardware changes that were obviously made ​​in the next model.
But nowadays it's a matter of will .. <<I want or do not want to create such a software upgrade, I want devote time and resources to that purpose or decide it is not worth it.>>


A short time ago in my post titled "A new update?" I was wondering exactly when and if we would have seen a good update with new features as well as some new model (amp / stomp / effect).
Fortunately that post, born from (my) dissatisfaction, has turned into a pleasant conversation, which lasted some days, between fans (myself included) of Pink Floyd.


Dude, I gotta say:

1. The Mustang amps are amazing and AMAZING for their price--great product and long lasting. It's almost old fashioned for Fender to sell such a great, long lasting product (meaning it won't need to be replace for a long time) for so cheap. You already have 17 amps in one if Fender does no more updates. In the absence of abuse, I don't see why my new MIII v2 should not last 40 years same as the sainted 1960s tube amps. And if not, well, I can get THREE MIIIs for the price of one Princeton reverb amp!!

2. I apologize for my recent threads in which I questioned some things about M3 before actually trying one. For example, the box is not small and it's open back; of course it's not boxy. It's a beast of an amp for $290. I was thinking it was only partially open backed. It's open backed and has plenty of room on either side of the speaker--in other words it does not have the problem some amps have with boxiness, including even some of Fender's tube amps, which are smaller and 3/4 closed back.


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