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Post subject: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:50 pm
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Hi

I try to connect my Mustang II with computer, but i have a problem - Ableton doesn't hear voice from amp. I think that all settings are correct.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:04 am
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I don't know much but here goes, download the Fender Universal driver, when you get to hardware in the audio tab click on mustang amplifier. I can actually record into the program but I can't get the sound on playback, I don't think my Mustang is staying locked in at the hardware screen, there is no ok button so I'm befuddled about that, I think it's defaulting back to the one about the speakers when I close it, I dunno. Anyway good luck! I'm having trouble with my III, there are a lot of threads here and a lot of info from Ableton. It's just not easy sorting through it all and getting to the meat of the subject, it's scattered all over the place. I guess all the folks here are pretty much burned out with newbies asking the same old questions. It was suggested to me to try Audacity, but when I got there it was the same thing with a different program. What we need is a step by step, click this... click that, process description that applies specifically to Mustang Amps and Ableton. I'm more into the redneck this and duct tape that, but I can find that tab anywhere LOL! Hang in there and keep fooling around with it, I'm not going to give up and I'll let you know if I get it figured out.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:54 am
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Impicker.. you didn't say in your previous post that you had problems getting anything to work.. you only implied you found Ableton hard to use. And you haven't added a response in that post to clarify... so how is anyone meant to help you?

What you need is not the Fender asio driver but 'asio4all' - uninstall the Fender driver and install asio4all - then do a search here for asio4all and you will find lots of useful advice.

But if you can record already then just start a new thread and clearly explain what it is you can't do!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:19 am
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Sorry Markcc, I had a reply in the other thread but I wound up deleting it because the more I read it the stupider it sounded, plus it sat there awhile with no reply and that just confirmed for me that it was too stupid for everybody. LOL! I just figured I was too old school for anybody to bother with. So since we got this one going, I just quickly add that asio4all doesn't work at all for me, no recording, no nothing. The only one I can get a response with is the Fender Universal Asio, but then I can't get any sound out when I play it back, through the computer speakers or headphones. I'll remove the Fender Universal and install asio4all again and start checking the threads here to help me get started.

Thanks again! and please accept my sincere apology.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:20 am
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Update:

I've uninstalled Fender Universal Asio Driver and installed asio4all.

1. I double clicked on the ableton icon on my desktop and opened ableton.
2. I closed the devise menu on the left side and closed the help menu on the right side.
3. I clicked on the horizontal line button on the upper right side and went to the next screen.
4. I clicked on the top button and the third button down on the lower right side. (four buttons horizontal)
5. I clicked on options and preferences.
6. I clicked on Audio and driver is asio and driver devise is asio4all v2
7. input config is 1&2 mono and 1/2 stereo. output is the same.
8. I clicked on hardware and with my amp connected via USB and turned on, I clicked on the parachute at the bottom and I showed two devices, high definition device and mustang.
9. I clicked on mustang and the light came on and the other one went out.
10. I closed the preferences window, armed the arm button on the right, the arm button on top and clicked the forward button.

I began recording with a very small sound line, I had to turn my volume way up (master on amp and volume pots on guitar) to get much at all. When I tried to play back, nothing, no sound through computer speakers or computer headphones. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:50 am
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try adjusting the USB gain.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:44 am
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Thanks strings, I first made a "how do you do that"? reply, then searched the threads and found it. I've deleted the "how" reply, kinda got things backwards. Anyway I went into fuse (advanced amp), my USB gain was set at zero, I put it at 50% and didn't have much improvement, so I put it at 100% and that did it, I now have these huge sound lines without much volume while recording (I'll fine tune later). But I still don't have any playback sound, I get that figured out and I think I'll be on my way! Thanks again!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:20 am
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anytime! I don't know why the default setting for USB gain is so low, it must confuse a lot of people. Part II of your dilemma I'm not so sure about, I haven't loaded Ableton.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:27 pm
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Strings, I'm gonna wrestle around with this a little more and then call it quits, I'm hardheaded and don't want to give up, I shoulda listened to you and Markcc in the beginning, at least I would have someone who knows the ropes in Audacity. Your stuff on youtube sounds real good, the live stuff that you recorded with the small digital recorder came out really good! That's what I've been using to record my backup tracks with, so easy to make a CD and I was in business. Also, I'm in a band (bass player) and I get my wife to record with the recorder (radio shack forty nine bucks) and I make CDs for all the members, works really good. But.. I thought it would be nice to have a recording program that would turn out some really professional sounding stuff and I could tinker with. Anyway thanks again, and don't go away, I'll be asking some stupid questions about Audacity soon!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:50 pm
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Hey Impicker - if you have audio wavy lines you have sound recorded.
For play back try things one at a time - can you get sound out of your PC at all, from, say a an audio CD or You Tube?

It could be some setting in Ableton you have to switch - 'output routing' as a guess.
Anyway if your 21 I'm 19 so not such a big difference.

Hey.. what about poor old Tuhaj who started this thread?
Sorry Tuhaj - it's been hijacked


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:42 pm
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markcc, still a teenager huh! LOL! I've got audio wavy sound lines and really good ones since I upped the USB gain, strings got that one for me. Also there are some sound bars (don't know else what to call them) showing activity, so yeah I appear to have everything right, except I can't hear the playback. I've clicked just about everything and tried all sorts of variations, but nothing. I have good sound with youtube and all the other stuff. I per your suggestion (thanks!) played with the input, output setting, still nothing. I went into the device manager and disabled all the other stuff except for mustang and nothing seems to work. I sent a note to Fender TSL and was pointed toward the topic for Ableton setup (I've read it forty times) it says to use Fender Universal Asio Driver, so I went back and uninstalled asio4all, and reinstalled the Universal, got the same results... so I can get to the same place with each of those drivers. I've just about reached the endpoint of this experience..

Where you at Tuhaj? you got your ears on? Have you got it figured out and your sitting there laughing your head off?

I'm thinking of starting a new thread topic something like "Does anyone use Ableton to record, if so how do you get sound from the playback?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II + Ableton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:24 am
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I'm still here. I see that you forgot about me :( . I haven't solved my problem yet and i have not idea what might be wrong.


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