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Post subject: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:34 am
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Hi!

From time to time i read people complaining about the Mustang manual not offering a basic guide to effect and effect parameters.

I remember my start when i owned a fantastic Boss ME-10 and used the settings from the Boss Stomp booklet to learn how to use fx...

So i decided to start this guide:

http://ridingthemustang.blogspot.it/p/u ... stang.html

Today it only contains only Overdrive and Reverb, but if you want to comment, contribute, fix etc etc, any help would be apreciated!

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:25 am
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I see you're focusing on effects, I consolidated the documentation for the footswitches a while back, if you want to expand the topic, this is good info to have:

strings10927 wrote:
Mustang III 2-button Footswitch Instructions

Connect a 2-button footswitch to your Mustang amplifier to enable remote multi-function foot control.

Use the Utility menus to assign one of the following functions to the 2-button footswitch:

• Select presets (up/down)
• Select Quick Access presets (QA1/QA2)
• Bypass effects (various combinations)
• Set TAP interval


1. Press the UTIL button on the top of the amplifier to enter the Utility menu

2. Press the UTIL button 3 more times until the display reads 2-Btn Ftsw Mode. If you pass it by accident, just keep pressing UTIL until it comes around again

3. The footswitch will be set to Down/Up (default setting)

4. Turn the DATA WHEEL until the desired footswitch function is selected

5. Once the desired function is selected, press EXIT. The last thing you chose will stay.

These are the available functions:

a. Down/Up - choose this function if you'd like to simply scroll up and down through the presets. This allows you to scroll through all 100 presets in a linear fashion (in other words, you can't skip from preset 01 to preset 10 without pressing the Up button 9 times or the Down button 91 times).

b. QA1/QA2 - choose this function if you'd like to use the pedal to switch between 2 Quick Access presets of your choosing. You will not be able to scroll through the rest of the presets using the pedal if you choose this option.

c. Stomp/Mod - choose this option if you'd like button 1 to turn a stomp box for the selected preset on and off, and button 2 to turn a modulation effect for the selected preset on and off. You will not be able to scroll through the rest of the presets using the pedal if you choose this option.

d. Stomp/Delay - choose this option if you'd like button 1 to turn a stomp box for the selected preset on and off, and button 2 to turn the delay effect for the selected preset on and off. You will not be able to scroll through the rest of the presets using the pedal if you choose this option.

e. Stomp/Reverb - choose this option if you'd like button 1 to turn a stomp box for the selected preset on and off, and button 2 to turn the reverb effect for the selected preset on and off. You will not be able to scroll through the rest of the presets using the pedal if you choose this option.

f. Stomp/Tap - choose this option if you'd like button 1 to turn a stomp box for the selected preset on and off, and button 2 to set delay time or modulation rate settings for the selected preset by rhythmically pressing button 2. You will not be able to scroll through the rest of the presets using the pedal if you choose this option.

:idea: NOTE: You might wonder why there are 3 Quick Access slots when there are only 2 buttons on the footswitch. That's where the optional 4-button footswitch comes in. You can use it by itself to get similar options to the 2-button footswitch, but with a little more flexibility:

4-Button Footswitching options

Connect a 4-button footswitch to your Mustang amplifier to enable remote multi-function foot control. The footswitch display and LEDs show you some of the same information as the amplifier screen, so you can, for example, tune your guitar and select presets by watching the footswitch without ever looking at the screen onboard the Mustang III!

• Select Quick Access presets (QA1/QA2/QA3)
• Select presets (up/down/bank)
• Bypass effects
• Activate the Tuner


You can also use the 2-button and 4-button footswitches together to gain access to more than a dozen footswitch options:

6-Button Footswitching options

Plug both a 4-button and a 2-button footswitch into your Mustang amplifier to expand your remote control options. By assigning different functions to each footswitch you can create more than a dozen different foot control combinations.

For example, you could assign Quick Access presets to the 4-button footswitch and Up/Down presets to the 2-button footswitch. Or you could bypass effects with the 4-button footswitch and select presets with the 2-button footswitch.


Thanks for your contribution, I like what you've done so far. :D

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:53 am
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One thing I found very useful is the save Effects feature in fuse. I typically just like a mild chorus and don’t really alter many parameters so what I’ve done is saved the Chorus I like to slot A1 on the mod knob so when I want to start with a dry amp model I can turn the knob to A1 and have the chorus I like dropped in. This can be done with any of the effects except the stomps. The fuse manual touches on this VERY lightly so perhaps its worth a bigger mention. You could program the slots to your liking with various mods, verbs, and dlys that you frequently use and that reduces the need to go to fuse to mess with FX if you don’t really need to tweak parameters constantly.

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:24 am
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Hi,
very good job!

To start the explanation of delay section you could explain how Ducking delay affects the signal and the related parameters .. it is a particular behaviour compared to a common delay.


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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:54 pm
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Thanks everybody, i am preparing right now the delay section. There is a good amount of work since Fender was generous with the delay types and some control changes from type to type.

I totally agree that the save effect is a nice user friendly feature. Indeed the controls are one of the thing i like the most in the mustang. Too bad that the save feature does not include the stomp. Indeed in the Mustang I/II only the fuse will let you use the stomps. Hope this will be addressed in the next generation :).

Anyway i will add a "save effect" trick and tips later!

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:22 am
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Help needed!

ATTNUAT is used to control the volume of the repetitions, right?

In the center all repetitions have the same volume, under 50% repetitions volume fades and over 50% repetition volume rises. Am i right?

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:57 am
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Added first part of the DELAY section, let me know if someone of you can help with the Attenuation control and also with the modes of the multitap!

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:07 am
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Some notes I have taken from the cybertwin documentation:

Delay parameters:

*Level: Adjusts the wet/dry signal ratio. Select between 1.0 for 0% wet (no effect) and 10.0 for a 50% mix
*time: Adjusts the time interval between the delayed repeats.
*feedback: Adjusts the number of delay repeats. Select between 1.0 for a single delay repeat and 10.0 for many repeats
*brite: Adjusts the amount of high frequencies that are removed each time the delay is repeated. Select between 1.0 to make each subsequent repeat darker and 10.0 to allow the high frequencies to repeat. Use this control to simulate the high-frequency absorption of acoustically dull rooms or analog echo units. Note that because this control removes highs from the signal, that it will also affect the number of delayed repeats.
*atten: Adjusts the input level to the delay effect. Mono Delay is the only effect with this control. By attaching this control to a pedal, you can swell the input to the delay, and allow the repeats to ring out, even when you turn the control to the minimum setting.
*separ: Adjusts the amount of stereo spread in the panning (left / right channel shifting) of the delay taps. Select between 1.0 for center-panned repeats, (no left / right channel shifting) and 10.0 for maximum panning, (creates a stereo effect).
*wow: Adjusts the amount of wow (random frequency response modulation) and flutter (random pitch change) present in the echo signal. Select between 1.0 for minimum levels and 10.0 for maximum levels of this effect. Note that by having this control in the higher part of its range, the wow and flutter will continue to operate over the repeats of the echo, causing compounded randomness.
*Delay Ducking Threshold. Adjusts the sensitivity of the ducking action to your playing. Select between 1.0 for no ducking action and 10.0 for maximum ducking action with the highest degree of sensitivity to any input from your guitar
*Reverse FFDBK, Adjusts the number of delay repeats. Select between 1.0 for a single delay repeat and 10.0 for many repeats. Note that this control allows all delay repeats to be just like the first delay repeat, i.e., reversed.
*Reverse RFDBK, Adjusts the number of delay repeats. Select between 1.0 for a single delay repeat and 10.0 for many repeats. Note that this control will alternately reverse and unreverse delay repeats. Because there are two feedback controls for this effect, use each one with regard for the other to avoid uncontrolled feedback.
*Echo filter freq: resonance frequency
*Echo filter resin: boost of the resonance frequency


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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:00 am
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*atten: Adjusts the input level to the delay effect. Mono Delay is the only effect with this control. By attaching this control to a pedal, you can swell the input to the delay, and allow the repeats to ring out, even when you turn the control to the minimum setting.


Very nice! my favourite is Tape delay (sometimes even with wow & flutter at high amount :lol: very funny) but i'm looking forward to have the EXP-1 to experience that effect. (by the grace of their lordships at Casale Bauer - Fender Italy : .. already 4 months of waiting)

I also have recently discovered how the ducking delay actually works.. very appreciable too.

By the way... in Fuse there are some other "hidden parameters" that are not reacheable even in Mustang model with display..
for example in Echo filter delays (mono or stereo) there is perhaps something similar to Attenuation:
IN LVL (Input Level)...

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:26 pm
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captainc wrote:
One thing I found very useful is the save Effects feature in fuse. I typically just like a mild chorus and don’t really alter many parameters so what I’ve done is saved the Chorus I like to slot A1 on the mod knob so when I want to start with a dry amp model I can turn the knob to A1 and have the chorus I like dropped in. This can be done with any of the effects except the stomps. The fuse manual touches on this VERY lightly so perhaps its worth a bigger mention. You could program the slots to your liking with various mods, verbs, and dlys that you frequently use and that reduces the need to go to fuse to mess with FX if you don’t really need to tweak parameters constantly.


Bless you, sir! I thought the settings were all or nothing. I need to setup a few of the mod positions.


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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:36 am
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Ok, last night i had a session of experiment with some funny info i collected for the guide.

I give a test to all the delays to better understand it.

But the surprise was with the reverbs!

I usually use small and large room, sometime ambience with some setting that needs to be widen.

I wanted my Satriani preset to sound "more vintage" so i replaced the small room reverb with the '63... What an hungry reverb! It really enance the high freq. I immediately test it with a more Metal sound... and this is the result:

https://fuse.fender.com/mustang/presets ... mania-ts63

I forgot to upload the previous version if someone want to test the difference, i will soon!

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:08 am
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DarkPenguin wrote:
captainc wrote:
One thing I found very useful is the save Effects feature in fuse. I typically just like a mild chorus and don’t really alter many parameters so what I’ve done is saved the Chorus I like to slot A1 on the mod knob so when I want to start with a dry amp model I can turn the knob to A1 and have the chorus I like dropped in. This can be done with any of the effects except the stomps. The fuse manual touches on this VERY lightly so perhaps its worth a bigger mention. You could program the slots to your liking with various mods, verbs, and dlys that you frequently use and that reduces the need to go to fuse to mess with FX if you don’t really need to tweak parameters constantly.


Bless you, sir! I thought the settings were all or nothing. I need to setup a few of the mod positions.

You mean after 927 posts i finally post something of value? :lol:

Glad I could help. :D

I programmed a couple of delay presets with different times and repeats. Works out nicely

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:32 am
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Here is older version with a more modern delay to compare.

captainc: would you mind share with us your basic delay settings?

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:22 pm
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mordor74 wrote:
Here is older version with a more modern delay to compare.

captainc: would you mind share with us your basic delay settings?


I typically like a delay at 430-440 ms with 3 repeats and leveled around 30 percent. With a little chorus I prefer it to reverb. But that's me.

Here are 2 presets I made. They sound pretty good with my setup, pups. I have on on
Delay slot A1 and the faster delay on Delay slot A2. The presets I uploaded on July 15 are much better than my previous uploaded presets. Though they may sound crap to others

https://fuse.fender.com/mustangv2/prese ... watt-clean

https://fuse.fender.com/mustangv2/prese ... k-pt-1-dly

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Post subject: Re: Unoffical Guide to Fender Mustang Effects
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:56 am
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I'm writing the delay part of the guide and i have a problem:

i dont know what is the use of
FREQ: adjust the frequency
RESNNCE: adjust the resonance
apart from the label meaming i wanted to give a basic explaination of the everyday usage of a control, but i really dont know how this to control affect the sound.

Can someone help me?

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