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Post subject: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:19 pm
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HI--I own a M3 & M4. I've used the 4-button switch primarily to utilize the quick access presets. I just bought a Mustang Floor, and am now wondering--can I use the 5 buttons to set up 5 quick access presets? I like the idea of using this through the PA (no more lugging the IV to gigs), but am so used to using the QA presets, I am hoping the floor does this? I can't find any mention of this.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:48 pm
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Hi laywrite,

We will be happy to assist. It sounds like the Fender® Mustang™ Floor might make a perfect fit for you. You are correct in the fact that you can setup 5 Presets that can be accessed by the bottom 5 buttons on your Mustang Floor. You would simply assign the 5 desired Presets to the 00-04 Preset slots and then you should be good to go. Good luck with the gigging and let us know if we can assist further.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:01 pm
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Hello Fender TSL,
Gosh, hate to be rude (don't you just know that's what is next? :shock: ) but.....
Please; READ and COMPREHEND laywrite's message. Pay special attention to the portion that states: " I can't find any mention of this." That line CLEARLY points out a dearth of information about how to assign Quick Access presets to the Fender Mustang Floor.
Laywrite is absolutely correct. There is absolutely nothing in the manual or the Fuse program that many people are so thrilled with about how to accomplish the assignment of the five buttons as Quick Access shortcuts.
Your astute guidance is: "You would simply assign the 5 desired Presets to the 00-04 Preset slots and then you should be good to go." Really? Is that the best you can do?
Laywrite is clearly saying (paraphrasing) "Dude, can I assign the five lower buttons on the Fender Floor to use as Quick Access buttons? If so, what steps are take to get this accomplished?
Fender TSL's incisive and complete guidance: "Sure dude, go ahead."
Wow....do you think that was helpful?
Please...Please...Let's try this: "Great question, laywrite! You would simply assign the 5 desired Presets and then you should be good to go. Here are the steps that you need to follow to assign the 5 buttons to Quick Access buttons to your Fender Floor.... Since you have brought it to our attention, we will add these simple steps to our instruction manuals and are working on including it in the Fuse program. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We hope you will enjoy your Fender Fuse even more when you can assign the buttons to access your most favorite presets. Good luck with the gigging and let us know if we can assist further."
Don't know if that was terribly rude or not, but I hope you can see the Fender response was lacking.
And,,,,I'd like to know the answer, too! :?
Thanks. ndrzdad


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:25 am
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WOW, give the Fender guys a break. It's not rocket science. Change the settings and hit the SAVE button, then look at the display and follow the clearly marked directions. No dispensation needed....

...and just in case THAT isn't easy enough, here's the advanced manual. See page 7.

http://support.fender.com/manuals/guita ... _rev-B.pdf

NDRZDAD wrote:
Hello Fender TSL,
Gosh, hate to be rude (don't you just know that's what is next? :shock: ) but.....
Please; READ and COMPREHEND laywrite's message. Pay special attention to the portion that states: " I can't find any mention of this." That line CLEARLY points out a dearth of information about how to assign Quick Access presets to the Fender Mustang Floor.
Laywrite is absolutely correct. There is absolutely nothing in the manual or the Fuse program that many people are so thrilled with about how to accomplish the assignment of the five buttons as Quick Access shortcuts.
Your astute guidance is: "You would simply assign the 5 desired Presets to the 00-04 Preset slots and then you should be good to go." Really? Is that the best you can do?
Laywrite is clearly saying (paraphrasing) "Dude, can I assign the five lower buttons on the Fender Floor to use as Quick Access buttons? If so, what steps are take to get this accomplished?
Fender TSL's incisive and complete guidance: "Sure dude, go ahead."
Wow....do you think that was helpful?
Please...Please...Let's try this: "Great question, laywrite! You would simply assign the 5 desired Presets and then you should be good to go. Here are the steps that you need to follow to assign the 5 buttons to Quick Access buttons to your Fender Floor.... Since you have brought it to our attention, we will add these simple steps to our instruction manuals and are working on including it in the Fuse program. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We hope you will enjoy your Fender Fuse even more when you can assign the buttons to access your most favorite presets. Good luck with the gigging and let us know if we can assist further."
Don't know if that was terribly rude or not, but I hope you can see the Fender response was lacking.
And,,,,I'd like to know the answer, too! :?
Thanks. ndrzdad


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:51 am
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Hello jwoertz,
I don't care to get into any type of flame war here or anywhere else.
Actually, I can read. I can comprehend. I have read page 7 of the advanced manual, as well as the rest of it. It was on my computer long before your rather pointed response. (Thanks for the link, though! :| )
The question is in reference to QUICK ACCESS BUTTONS. That was also the obvious intent of the original poster, laywrite. It had nothing to do with making or saving custom presets. Two very different things.
I agree there are instructions for saving custom presets. There are no (or very well hidden) instructions for setting up QUICK ACCESS BUTTONS.
See the difference?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:01 am
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It does have to do with saving and arranging. Reiterating what the guys from Fender just said - arrange in 00-01-02-03-04. There's nothing more to it. First five patches = QA buttons from what I can tell.

NDRZDAD wrote:
Hello jwoertz,
I don't care to get into any type of flame war here or anywhere else.
Actually, I can read. I can comprehend. I have read page 7 of the advanced manual, as well as the rest of it. It was on my computer long before your rather pointed response. (Thanks for the link, though! :| )
The question is in reference to QUICK ACCESS BUTTONS. That was also the obvious intent of the original poster, laywrite. It had nothing to do with making or saving custom presets. Two very different things.
I agree there are instructions for saving custom presets. There are no (or very well hidden) instructions for setting up QUICK ACCESS BUTTONS.
See the difference?

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:37 am
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jwoertz,
Thanks. You could be quite correct.
However, it appears to me that Footswitch Modes/Preset Modes are discussed on page 3 of the manual.

As you stated earlier, page 7 covers Saving Presets/To Save Your Own Custom Presets.

I believe Custom Presets are for when I (or your, or anyone..) decide that on a particular (already supplied) preset I want a little more of this, a lot less of that, an addition of something else...and I want to save it so it's like this every time I select this particular preset. That is what the instructions talk about on page 7.

Again, I clearly understand I may be wrong. Won't be the first or last time today, but I think I am correct that this deals only with presets, and doesn't have anything to do with a Quick Access Button.

Page 6 of the manual has a section: MS-4 Four-Button Footswitch that delves into use of the MS-4 with the Floor...
"Your Mustang™ Floor gives you the option of adding an external EXP-1 expression pedal and an MS-4 four button
footswitch for additional flexibility."

I believe that laywrite was asking about setting up the Floor using the 5 lower buttons for QA without having to use the MS-4. (See lower quote.)

laywrite wrote:
HI--I own a M3 & M4. I've used the 4-button switch primarily to utilize the quick access presets. I just bought a Mustang Floor, and am now wondering--can I use the 5 buttons to set up 5 quick access presets? I like the idea of using this through the PA (no more lugging the IV to gigs), but am so used to using the QA presets, I am hoping the floor does this? I can't find any mention of this.


My view still is that presets and Quick Access are different (though related) animals.

I obviously didn't engineer the Floor, but certainly would have thought they'd include the ability of the Floor to utilize the 5 lower buttons as a simple and efficient way to quickly access 5 varying presets instead of taking time to execute a "Floor dance" each time a different preset is desired/required for a different sound/song. (In addition to the clear lack of efficiency; Can you just see some inebriated guitarist fall off the stage doing a drunken Floor dance? Now THAT would make great YouTube material! :oops: )

Additionally, the engineers were able to make a simple switch of the Expression pedal. "Your Mustang™ Floor is equipped with a dual-mode expression pedal. Switch between Volume mode and Expression mode by
pressing down hard on the toe end of the pedal."

Easy for me to say, but why not incorporate the same system into the MODE button on the Floor? Example: MODE Button-One press=Preset mode. Two presses= FX Select mode. Long Press=Quick Access mode. (Both lights illuminated.)

I don't know if this could be done with a firmware update or not, but seems possible IF they want to do it. Although it might take a Mode button replacement to accomplish the update...

Of course, a person could reasonably ask the question: "Dude, you just got through pointing out that the instructions show how to use an MS-4 to accomplish the QA task. Why not just do that?" I'd say that's a quite fair question.

My response would be this: There is only one port in the back of the Floor for incorporating either/or the MS-4 OR the EXP-1 Expression Pedal. Again, it's either/or, not both. (Or at least that's the way it appears...) So the way it's currently set up; I am limited to either having an additional Expression Pedal, or Quick Access via the buttons of the MS-4. Also, the MS-4 is limited to only 3 QA buttons, while there does not appear to be any explanation of why the Floor's Five lower buttons couldn't be used for Quick Access. (Other than design limitations.)

I don't complain about the limitation of the MS-4 at all. Instead; I believe the fairly inexpensive MS-4 should be an example of what SHOULD have been incorporated into the Floor design: Three Modes, one of which is QA. Simple enough...

I hope this makes some sense. It is very straightforward and foreseeable from my perspective. (Of course, I've had more than a few folks tell me my view is through a small hole between my "cheeks". Hmmm :mrgreen: )

As far as the tone and tenor of my first message to the Fender folks....The guys I work and hang around with converse in a really direct, take no prisoners type of dialect. No beating around the bush, just straight to the point to avoid any misunderstanding. Believe it or not; I actually toned down my normal conversational style. :shock:

However, if I was rude or made anyone's lower lip quiver a little, that certainly wasn't my intent. I know you Fender folks are great and just trying to help. You may have missed the point of laywrite's message, but that's not an excuse for me to be hard on you. That wasn't my intent.

Thanks to jwortz for the responses.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:24 pm
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I neglected to add this in my previous dissertation.
I had intended it to read:

Page 6 of the manual has a section: MS-4 Four-Button Footswitch that delves into use of the MS-4 with the Floor...
"Your Mustang™ Floor gives you the option of adding an external EXP-1 expression pedal and an MS-4 four button
footswitch for additional flexibility." Additionally: "• Mode 1—Select one of three Quick Access presets using the buttons labeled: QA1 / QA2 / QA3 (in line with the MODE 1 LED). The number of the preset will appear in the display of the footswitch."
Furthermore; on page 8, which is a continuation of Saving Presets/To save your own custom presets:
"• Quick Access #1 / #2 / #3 — (Preset 00-99) Use these three utility menus to choose Quick Access presets. You can then access those presets quickly from the MS-4 footswitch (see MS-4 on page 6). These menus appear only when an MS-4 is connected."

Certainly, it was my mistake that I omitted this from my earlier message. However; I believe I clearly shows that the Floor is NOT engineered or designed to use the 5 lower buttons for Quick Access. Quick Access is only available when paired with a MS-4.

That said; I think my case is clearly stated as to why the 5 Quick Access button option should have been included from the beginning.

I hope that Fender will carefully consider these questions and suggestions and make the changes to rectify this oversight, resulting in optimizing the Floor to the truly fine piece of equipment is should be.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:25 pm
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It's all in good fun.

NDRZDAD wrote:
I neglected to add this in my previous dissertation.
I had intended it to read:

Page 6 of the manual has a section: MS-4 Four-Button Footswitch that delves into use of the MS-4 with the Floor...
"Your Mustang™ Floor gives you the option of adding an external EXP-1 expression pedal and an MS-4 four button
footswitch for additional flexibility." Additionally: "• Mode 1—Select one of three Quick Access presets using the buttons labeled: QA1 / QA2 / QA3 (in line with the MODE 1 LED). The number of the preset will appear in the display of the footswitch."
Furthermore; on page 8, which is a continuation of Saving Presets/To save your own custom presets:
"• Quick Access #1 / #2 / #3 — (Preset 00-99) Use these three utility menus to choose Quick Access presets. You can then access those presets quickly from the MS-4 footswitch (see MS-4 on page 6). These menus appear only when an MS-4 is connected."

Certainly, it was my mistake that I omitted this from my earlier message. However; I believe I clearly shows that the Floor is NOT engineered or designed to use the 5 lower buttons for Quick Access. Quick Access is only available when paired with a MS-4.

That said; I think my case is clearly stated as to why the 5 Quick Access button option should have been included from the beginning.

I hope that Fender will carefully consider these questions and suggestions and make the changes to rectify this oversight, resulting in optimizing the Floor to the truly fine piece of equipment is should be.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:08 am
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... So in conclusion laywrite, I hope this has helped :lol: 8)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor--quick access presets?
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:24 am
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Okay, all kidding aside...

On the Mustang Floor (aka MF.)
you can go through the presets by using a combination of the up/down buttons along with the preset buttons.
It should power up to preset 00.
If you press the button labeled 03, you will switch to preset 03.

If you press the UP button and then step on the button labeled 00, you will switch to preset 06
because pressing the UP button took you to the next "bank" or set of presets.

Now, lets say you wanted to have your MF power up to your top 5 or favorite presets.
Use the scroll method described above to find the sound you want to use as preset 00
When you get there press the save button 1 time, turn the data wheel until it reads 00, then press save again.
You can also safe the "state" of each stomp per preset... as in, if the delay was on (or off) when the preset was saved... it will be on (or off) every time you call up that preset.

Do this to fill up each preset from 00-05.
Now when you power up the MF it will be ready to play using your top 5 presets.

Hope this helps... also hope this is correct as I don't have the unit with me right now :mrgreen:


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