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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:26 am
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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:25 pm
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Hey ,, I have question, What is your opinion, I could get the GC pro coverage on the MIII V2 for 2 or 3 years. Is it worth it at all? Really fishing on seeing what the pros here think! Thanks a Million in Advance! MK

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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:31 am
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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 pm
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Couple of hours and a few days later. Yes, I can use the Presets, Each one, use it, tweak it, save it. They are basically all usable, to some extent. The amp does definately sound better. Take the Derek Champ for example. Not changing anything at all, the sound just resonates and sustains like never before on the V1. With the Gretsch and TV Jones Classics, a lot of settings are way too bright, so More tweaking. It really came down to what are you going to plug into it? The Gretsch sounds amazing!! The SD Humbuckers sounded good, and probably better to some folks, but ?? Anyway I did also forgot to mention, they did away with the silver gliders and put rubber feet on the V2. All In all, I have no need to go on and on, PC Connectivity and recording is just perfect, Like the V1, The sounds through the amp are really much nicer, and respond very well. I really hope that this helped someone out there. If not let me know. Spending too much time on here and not enough trying to break in the speaker! Thanks MK

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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:26 pm
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Significant observations, mak! The Mustangs are very guitar-dependent. Mine sounds so-so with my Yamaha RGX-A2 soapbar humbuckers but spectacular with an AXL Badwater 1216 Jr. with the bridge P-90. The ax/pickup combo you use makes all the difference. The same models run from blah to awesome when you match with the right ax.

A bit mysterious why this is the case, but it is certainly true.


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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:02 am
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Hello all! I'm new here... I've been watching this forum since January and researching this amp for quite awhile now. Let me begin by saying I am one of those so called "tube bigots". I tried all these modeling amps awhile back and could just not get on board. They all sounded sterile and lifeless. I even tried the Line 6 Spider Valve stuff thinking, "it has tubes, should sound decent" only to sell it off a week later. I bought a Fender Twin 65 Reissue and promised myself I would never look back.

Well... I'm not getting any younger and those things are heavy. I went out to the local GC a few weeks ago to pick up a small practice amp. I didn't want a modeling amp, just something to hook my pedals up to. I didn't even think about looking at the Mustangs. I plugged into a VOX VT40+ and was blown away by the sound. This from a modeling amp!? Beautiful tone! Must be because it's got a tube... I took it home.

I was unhappy with the configuration of the VOX though, particularly with footswitch access to the presets... only 8? Meh... and no effects loop or line out. So I started doing some more browsing and these Mustangs kept showing up in posts I was reading and how great they sounded and how they blew everything else out of the water and blah, blah, blah.

Long story short: I waited for the V2's based on everything I was reading. They showed up at the GC last week. I went in to try them out. Returned the VOX and walked out with a Mustang III V2. All I can say is this tube bigot is sold. They nailed it. Period. I love this amp and from how it sounds and the tweaking you can do to it (read everything you can find on the SAG, BIAS and cabs adjustments! it's important!) I can see even gigging with it real soon.

... that's my story and I'm sticking to it.


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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:28 am
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Musicmaster2 wrote:
Significant observations, mak! The Mustangs are very guitar-dependent. Mine sounds so-so with my Yamaha RGX-A2 soapbar humbuckers but spectacular with an AXL Badwater 1216 Jr. with the bridge P-90. The ax/pickup combo you use makes all the difference. The same models run from blah to awesome when you match with the right ax.

A bit mysterious why this is the case, but it is certainly true.



The one thing I have found about the mustangs and the way they manage input signal gain, either from the guitar pickups directly, or from any booster pedal, is that, depending on the amp emulation selected, there's a limit on how much you can drive the amp, even if you keep increasing the input signal. The clearest example is the fender twin amp emulation, it will get to a point where no matter how hotter the input signal is, it will not sound more driven.

So in a nuthsell, I think the hotter the pickups on the guitar, the more variety of tones you are going to get from the mustang, just rolling the volume knob on your guitar, without the risk of driving it too much. I use it with a start with texas specials on neck and pickup and pearly gates humbucker on bridge (all pretty hot pickups) and I can get anything from pure jazz tones to the nastiest heavy metal sounds with it, depending on the amp emulation selected

PS: for the more technically inclined, what I have found, taking a look at the waveform of the mustang output of the fender twin amp model is that, if you start increasing the input signal, you see the output signal been more and more driven, which means that the waveform will have more harmonics AND increase the output level. At a certain point even if you keep increasing the input signal, no more harmonics are added, but the output signal keeps increasing it's level, so technically you can not "overdrive" the twin amp emulation beyond a certain point no matter how hot your pickups are, and it will always sound cleaner than, let's say, the deluxe amp emulation when driven hard. So in essence, using hot pickups you will have the whole palette of sounds of each amp emulation, which you might not have if the pickups are not hot enough. In that case you are going to need a booster pedal, or a emulated overdrive or compressor stomp to increase the input level, but it will not be as good as having hot pickups.


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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:33 am
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ScaryTone wrote:
Hello all! I'm new here... I've been watching this forum since January and researching this amp for quite awhile now. Let me begin by saying I am one of those so called "tube bigots". I tried all these modeling amps awhile back and could just not get on board. They all sounded sterile and lifeless. I even tried the Line 6 Spider Valve stuff thinking, "it has tubes, should sound decent" only to sell it off a week later. I bought a Fender Twin 65 Reissue and promised myself I would never look back.

Well... I'm not getting any younger and those things are heavy. I went out to the local GC a few weeks ago to pick up a small practice amp. I didn't want a modeling amp, just something to hook my pedals up to. I didn't even think about looking at the Mustangs. I plugged into a VOX VT40+ and was blown away by the sound. This from a modeling amp!? Beautiful tone! Must be because it's got a tube... I took it home.

I was unhappy with the configuration of the VOX though, particularly with footswitch access to the presets... only 8? Meh... and no effects loop or line out. So I started doing some more browsing and these Mustangs kept showing up in posts I was reading and how great they sounded and how they blew everything else out of the water and blah, blah, blah.

Long story short: I waited for the V2's based on everything I was reading. They showed up at the GC last week. I went in to try them out. Returned the VOX and walked out with a Mustang III V2. All I can say is this tube bigot is sold. They nailed it. Period. I love this amp and from how it sounds and the tweaking you can do to it (read everything you can find on the SAG, BIAS and cabs adjustments! it's important!) I can see even gigging with it real soon.

... that's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Thanks for your testimonial ! always good to hear from "converted" guys :)

It was time already for new technology to be able to emulate reliably tube circuits from the 1940's :)

I have tested all amp emulations I have been able to put my hands on, and regarding clean tones, the only one that sounds good enough to me is the mustangs. AS a PC application, the only one I have found that comes close is Amplitube, but of course running on a PC that probably has 20 times the processing power of the mustang amplifier. How fender got suvh good tube dynamics with the cheap mustangs is a mystery to me, but I'm happy with it too :)


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Post subject: Re: 1 hour MIII V2 Impressions
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:57 am
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I also went from all Tube amps to the MIII V2. Last tube amp was a Deville 4X10! WAY Too loud and heavy. anyway the last good amp I had was a Line 6 Flextone III XL. I would still have and use it if needed, But the MII, Blows it away and best of all it is VERY Light!!! Also Have a VOX Ad30VT, I really am not a fan of the closed cab and what made me sell a guitar to get the MIII, was the 12 inch Speaker. The guitars just don't sound right to me on the low end with a 10. But yeah I really just think the age of technology made this amp possible. The sounds are amazing, each day I go through a few presets and change em up a bit and than save them to the same spot. I made a few for myself. mainly the startup one, Which I think is the worst pre. But I got the sound I needed and there is my sound when I turn on the amp. The flexibility with this amp is wonderful, Now a new line 6 Variax. and this amp? AHHHH

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