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Post subject: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:24 pm
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Hey gang. I just started playing again after 30 years, so I picked up a Squire and a Mustang 1. I was playing through a Roland cube for a couple of months, then bought the Mustang. Wow, am I impressed with this amp! I have been learning some songs by Social Distortion from their album "Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell". I have been trying to match my sound to the original, but haven't had much luck. I know Mike Ness pays thru a Bassman with a Les Paul, but there has to be a way to duplicate his sound thru the Mustang. I haven't downloaded the Fuse software yet as I don't really know what it entails to use it, and better yet, how to use it. I respect everyone that plays well, and I'm just trying to make noise that is enjoyable, and fun to play! In advance, Thank you to all who reply! Keep Rockin!


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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:33 am
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"I'm just trying to make noise that is enjoyable, and fun to play!"

Right -- and there you have it!!

it's gonna be hard to get a Squire with single coils to sound like a Les Paul, add to it all the other variables with what happens in a studio and what each players "hands" do on the strings. My advice would be to not get too wrapped around the axle trying to nail the exact tones. just go for the Bassman settings on your mustang, get in the ball park, and have at it.


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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:35 am
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Thank you for your reply kidblast. I picked up my Squire from a friend who was giving me some lessons and some basic "homework" to do while I was home. The Squire has a Seymore Duncan bridge pickup in it, and I understand the difference between the single coils, and the p90's that I am trying to duplicate. Sometimes this guitar sounds so "twangy" that it drives me nuts. I'm going to try out the Fuse software, and play with it and see what sounds that I can create with it, and just have fun! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge, insight, and support with me! Keep Rockin'!


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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:25 pm
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I second Kidblast idea of having fun.

I'm not sure if you can get rid of the twangy thing. Maybe try a compressor as a stomp.

To try to add more bite to your pickup you can add some gain and mids in you amp emulation settings too.


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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:10 pm
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Yep, have fun and work with what you've got - that's the mindset of a true rock-n-roller.

The complaint you have about the pups being too bright is common in most all Asian built guitars with single coil pickups. Why this is true with Squier guitars is beyond me. One of the big reasons for this is that they all come with 500k volume and tone pots.

When Leo Fender (an electrical engineer) first designed and built the Broadcasters, Teles and Strats he used 250k pots specifically to deal with the brightness of single coils. American made Fender guitars that use single coils come with 250k pots as standard wiring to this day. (The early Gibson guitars equipt with P90's used 300k pots.)

If your handy with a soldering iron, it's a cheap and easy fix for the problem to just swap out the pots. If your not so handy, maybe you know someone who is, otherwise paying a tech to do it can get costly depending on what they charge per hour - you may not want to pour that much more into it.

P90's can go from a sweet dulcimer tone to their characteristic grit and bite simple by working the volume knob on the guitar. So, I would try opening up the volume on the guitar all the way before settling in on the amp settings.

Once you have the sound as close to the grit and bite that your looking for, back off on the guitar's volume to control and tame it.


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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:27 am
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Welcome to the forum and have fun with your Mustang. Just an added two cents, I believe Mike Ness (and the other SD guitar player) use open tuning w/ capos (don't know which open tuning) so you might mess around with that as you search for the magic sound.

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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:34 pm
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Hello gang. I downloaded the Fuse software a few days ago. I'm finding it pretty cool going through the different amp models, adding this, and tweaking that. Again, I have only been playing again for a couple of months, and started at the beginning. My Squire has a Seymore Duncan bridge pickup in it now. Changing the electronics over on it is prolly more than I want to get into at this stage of my playing, although the SD style is what interests me. I have noticed that many of their songs are played de-tuned 1/2 step or a full step. De-tuning to practice one song seemed crazy in the past, but maybe something that I should look into doing. The compression setting on the Stomp Box within the software has been a staple for me, and a hint of reverb has seemed to sound good. And p90sdude, I appreciate the help with the settings. I'm still a noob, and don't really know what to add, how much, and more importantly, what it does! So your advice is greatly appreciated! I expected more from the software, but I haven't really given it my full attention yet. I'm still a bit lost when it comes to saving my settings, and also importing sounds. But it just takes time and practice, right?


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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:01 pm
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A few more cents....

What strings are you using?

I play Humbucker pups. But, when I first got my guitar it was incredibly tinny and the 1&2 strings would overpower any chord I played. I tried lots of different settings, vol, ton, etc... I was using those new Cobalt strings. I switched over to nickel (Eddie Ball Reg Slinky) and what a difference! My tone warmed right up, sounded/felt smoother. More like a nice warm fireplace as opposed to an acetylene torch (if that makes any sense). It went from a sound I was trying to control to a sound I enjoyed and wanted to play with.

Not sure exactly what you're going for....but strings, even picks, can make a huge difference in your tone.

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Post subject: Re: Noob needing some sound help
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:06 pm
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Hello chicagodave. I'm using Ernie Ball Super Slinky custom nickel 2223's. These were on the guitar when I bought it, so that is what I replaced them with. My friend that I bought the guitar from, strings his whole collection with these. So, I don't think that I have played on anything else.


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