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Post subject: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:04 pm
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Hello Everyone! I am new to the forums.

Just placed an order for a Mustang Floor to use with my Atomic Reactor 112. I already have a VOX Tonelab integrated with the Reactor but wanted a fun and easy to use floor unit. I have chewed off my fingernails watching YouTubes and reading reviews of all the modelers... especially POD HDs, Tonelab LE and the new Zooms. Nearly pulled the trigger on a used Tonelab LE off Craigslist when I discovered I can get a brand spanking new Mustang Floor for same price with the recent pricedrop. (Figured the LE would be fairly duplicitous to my desktop Tonelab anyway.) I like the HD400 and 500 but am afraid I would be spending way more money for something too complicated.

How are you enjoying your Mustang Floors for those of you that own them?

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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:14 pm
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Great choice. I love mine. Been using my MF for 3 months now. 4x a week playing gigs.

You may need to tweak the amp models meet your tone needs. Once you get them "dialed in" its a snap to make quick tone tweaks. I use the free FUSE software for most of my editing.

Right now I am only using #s 0-4 for my working amp models. My modified amps are: 0-SuperSonic, 1-Bassman, 2-VoxAC30, 3-MarshallPlexi, 4-Twin. Added the Stomps, etc to each. I set to the Expression pedal to Gain which works by increasing the amp's Gain section. This effect is really responsive & sounds awesome.

I use the XLR out to the PA & Amp out (if needed-no monitor system) to my stage volume amp.

I carry the MF in a padded skateboard bag. This skateboard bag does NOT have the holes for the wheels.

Enjoy the unit.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:08 pm
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Hey, with the floor you get 20k$+ worth of musical gizmos in a 10 pounds package that costs 175$... and that in general has very good reviews... You can't be really wrong, can you?

I mean, an Ibanez Tube Screamer pedal which is no more than a cheap operational amplifier and some capacitors is more expensive than that LOL


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:34 pm
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Jedi2b very wise you are (best Yoda voice...) I am just hoping I will enjoy the MF and keep it rather than taking a hit on it in a couple of months to fund a more expensive unit like the POD HD500. I could stretch and buy a HD500 now for twice the price of the MF, but I am afraid it would be over my head as I am just a play-at-home hobbyist and it would be too complicated. The reviews online seem to indicate that the HD500 (besides being significantly more expensive) is fairly complex while those of the MF seem to indicate it is more of a plug-and-play and easy to tweek floorboard. The only thing worse than taking a hit on gear to upgrade is taking a hit on gear to downgrade!

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Fender Mustang GT40
Eleven HeadRush w/ two Alto TS212 FRFRs


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm
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I think that my TV is more complicated to configure and use than my mustang floor.

The only thing really lacking that sometimes frustrates users is that the product documentation looks like a highschool project gone bad. But unless you get into deep editing everything is mostly self explanatory.

Chanceas are you are going to be up and running in half an hour.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:34 pm
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Very good choice. I love mine! Relax and enjoy!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:58 am
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I've been playing guitar professionally for over 30 years. I walked into Guitar Center intending to buy the best amp they had and after 2 hours of playing I ending up walking out with a Mustang Floor instead, it's that good.

I've played (and own) the best from BOSS, Line 6 HD, Zoom, etc. etc. and the Mustang Floor smokes them all when you want great sounding Fender tones with quality effects. Jedi is right, this has at least 20 grand worth of great amps inside it. The funny thing is one of my favorites is their Marshall 80's model.

The secret to turning your Mustang Floor into an unbelievable tone machine is to avoid using headphones and instead run it into a clean amp while hooked up to the Fender Fuse software. Tweak the hell out of the presets until it sounds exactly how you like it, then make those patches your own. When you play live just adjust the tone controls of your amp to dial in the acoustics of the room you're playing in.

Now go spend the $18,800 savings on Guitars & Cars...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:56 pm
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I got it today and no complaints! FUSE is cool too. I may have to upgrade my original G-DEC to a G-DEC 3 so I can use FUSE with it as well.

Slowhand... I am running my Mustang Floor through an Atomic Reactor 112. The Reactor is a slave tube amp specially designed for amp/cab modelers. Doesn't color the modeled tones with a tone of its own but does add the warmth of power tubes. Kind of like a tube-driven PA system. It sounds great!

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Jackson USA Phil Collen PC-1
Warmoth Custom-Build Stratocaster (The Andersong)
Fender American Special Stratocaster
Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster
Fender Mustang GT40
Eleven HeadRush w/ two Alto TS212 FRFRs


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 pm
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I forgot the Atomic Reactor part until after I was finished dishing it out. That is a great way to go, just remember to take some time and make those presets your own.

Excellent!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:38 am
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I've had the RP1000, GT-10, and HD500 but I have to say the Fender and VOX sims are a better on the Floor and it cost quite a bit less. It doesn't have as many effects (particulary dirt) but what it does have are very good and usable effects plus you don't use most of those other effects on the other units very often if at all (like the synth tones and filter effects on the HD500). It also has a compressor that really sounds like a real compessor unlike the other units. Its so easy to program all you really have to know is that the big round knob is used for navigating the menus and that you push it in to select parameters and turn it to change the values. The layout and functionality of the unit is very intuitive and easy to use almost to the point where you almost don't need a manual. The only thing I can complain about (which is no big deal really) is that I wish they would give you the ability to run two Stombox effects at once and increase the number of dirt pedals in it; I remedy this by using my own dirt pedals in front of it. If they could make it so you could change the INSERT button so that you could use it as another Stompbox it would be great...:)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:14 pm
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Love my Mustang Floor. I've been through a Line 6 Spider, POD Pro, PODxt Pro and a BOSS GT-Pro. They all have good and bad points - mostly good. After many years of playing thru these various amp modellers, I realized I prefered Fender amp sounds for almost everything. The Floor does Fender better than anyone! It should, since it's from Fender. It doesn't cost nearly as much as those other units, and it sounds better than all of them. What's not to love? :D


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:48 am
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No modeler or multifx is perfect, unless you want to spend a lot of money and carry too much weight. I'm saying this because in this forum you'll hear mostly good things about the Mustang, and although these are biased opinions (mine too, of course :mrgreen: ), most of what you'll hear is true (again, in my opinion).

The good: Fender emulations, great low and medium gain preamps , very easy to use, doesn't need endless hours of tweaking, preset or stompbox mode just pressing one switch, silent switches, effect loop to control external od/dist pedal, and, of course, it's very cheap.

The bad: can't be used with an external amp without using amp sims (my post about this issue : viewtopic.php?f=27&t=82886), noise gate is bad and can't be used without amp sim, and effects are few and poor, can't move effects loop after or pre amp sims.

More good than bad, and that's why I have it, obviously :D . I sold my HD500 to buy the Mustang and I don't regret it, only wish Fender would make a new version that can be used without amp sims engaged and with improved effects.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:22 am
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Hi pomfret,

actually the floor is the only mustang that permits having no amp emulation... or a studio preamp if you still need the tone stack... so i'm not sure what you are talking about.


I'm in general quite happy with the noise gates and I use them all the time. Now if you try the Digitech noise gates (also known as the guillotine) you will see why I like the mustang noise gates.

I agree the stomp effects are meh (excluding the overdrive and compressor) but the tremolos, flangers, and reverbs are quite good. The delays seem adequate but difficult to tweak.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:56 am
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jedi2b wrote:
Hi pomfret,

actually the floor is the only mustang that permits having no amp emulation... or a studio preamp if you still need the tone stack... so i'm not sure what you are talking about.

I'm in general quite happy with the noise gates and I use them all the time. Now if you try the Digitech noise gates (also known as the guillotine) you will see why I like the mustang noise gates.


Hi, jedi. :D

Theoretically you can have sim amps off, but as I wrote in this post (thanks again for your help) viewtopic.php?f=27&t=82886, actually it's not posible without changing completely your amp's sound.

I prefer by far noise gate and effects in other devices I've used, even in the cheaper Zoom G3. Anyway, I can use them, as I'm doing, although I'm sure Fender will improve them in newer versions.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang Floor on the way... good decision?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:50 pm
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I use an Atomic Reactor amp... it is designed for use with modelers so I actually need an amp or amp/cab model because the Reactor has no color of its own... it acts like a tube-driven PA system giving analog warmth to digital models. I was seriously debating spending twice as much for a used HD500 but all of my Google research led me to believe that it is awesome for someone who knows what they are doing; but that it is complicated and not very friendly to those less inclined to play with the system all the time.

All in all I am still in utter amazement that I could get a brand spanking new floorboard amp modeler/fx unit with a large screen display and a pedal from an iconic brand-name such as Fender for under $200 (significantly under thanks to coupon!)

Given the lack of announcement of a Floor 2.0 along with the new Mustang amp line, and given the $100 price-drop; I am worried that Fender is bowing out of the stand-alone modeling unit market. If so, it is a shame because this is one seriously great value! I wonder if Fender feels as though the Floor detracts from sales of actual Mustang amps?

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my gear:

Jackson USA Phil Collen PC-1
Warmoth Custom-Build Stratocaster (The Andersong)
Fender American Special Stratocaster
Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster
Fender Mustang GT40
Eleven HeadRush w/ two Alto TS212 FRFRs


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