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Post subject: Can I use pedals with my Mustang 2?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:28 am
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So I have my blackstar pedal in my live rig. But i just wanted to ask If the so called "empty" preset works like fx return because i heard that many people said that you can overload Digital converter. And I don't want that, or I buy a jack and run it in AUX in?


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Post subject: Re: Can I use pedals with my Mustang 2?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:32 am
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MatejSJ wrote:
So I have my blackstar pedal in my live rig. But i just wanted to ask If the so called "empty" preset works like fx return because i heard that many people said that you can overload Digital converter. And I don't want that, or I buy a jack and run it in AUX in?


I'm using the empty preset with a wah pedal, boost, and overdrive an my Mustang III. Doesn't seem to be an issue


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Post subject: Re: Can I use pedals with my Mustang 2?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:44 pm
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Hi MatejSJ,

With your Fender Mustang II, you can use the single button foot switch to toggle 2 Presets of your choice. You can also use an inline pedal/stomp box of your choice. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Can I use pedals with my Mustang 2?
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:26 pm
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"empty" preset works like fx return

No. The "empty" preset works (approximately) like a neutral amplifier. But the signal is still going through the full circuitry of the amp, both analogue and DSP.

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many people said that you can overload Digital converter

I'm not sure I'd use the word overload, but I think what these "people" mean is that if the input signal level to the Mustang is too high, it will be clipped by the DSP (or rather by the ADC into the DSP). The audible effect of that will be similar to a 'hard' overdrive/distortion that probably won't sound nice, or at least not what you want. I don't know what the maximum peak voltage of the Mustang input is before that clipping will occur (maybe Fender can tell us?), but you're unlikely to hit it with normal guitar equipment. The Mustang is, after all, designed to work with the usual voltages generated by guitars and other instrument-level effects units you might want to put between your guitar and amp.

Where you might have a problem is if you use an effects pedal that has a line-level output rather than an instrument-level output. But that is going to cause you problems whatever amp you connect it to, that's not a Mustang-specific issue. Of course, such line-level effects units exist for good reasons and work well in the correct places in a circuit*. But they aren't designed for using inline between a guitar and an amplifier input. If your Blackstar effects unit falls into this category, does it have a switch to select between line-level and instrument-level output? (The fact that you're talking about connecting the Blackstar unit to the amp's aux-in, which is a line-level connection, suggests you already know the Blackstar has a line-level output?).

*For completeness, note that some guitar amplifiers have instrument-level fx-loops and fx-return sockets. Other amplifiers have line-level fx-send and fx-return sockets, although these are usually switchable to instrument level if required. Line-level effects units are designed to work with such line-level fx-loops - or rather, line-level fx loops came into being to support existing line-level equipment, bit of a chicken-and-egg really. Line-level guitar effects were I suppose originally designed for connecting directly into mixing desks, PA systems, etc, and anything else that needs a line-level rather than instrument-level input, without needing a guitar amp in between. The effects unit includes a little pre-amp (similar to that in a full guitar amp) to boost the signal from instrument-level to line-level.

Finally, if your Blackstar unit is already giving you all the effects and tone you want (sounds like it is, if you're happy to bypass those aspects of the Mustang and use its aux-in), you may want to consider whether a Mustang is the right amp to use in this situation?


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