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Post subject: How to use your Mustang floor as a looper!
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:01 pm
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Now that I got your attention, let me tell that the title is somewhat misleading as you can not do a looper with the floor alone... but for some extra dollars you can get the best looper on the market :wink:

The idea is to emulate, as a minimum, the functionnality of a boss rc-3 or a jamman solo, but without spending the 200 $ they cost. If you put some extra effort you could harness all the extra functions of Mobius, but that I will let to somebody else :)

these are the requirements:
-windows or mac with Mobius looper installed (the best and free looper around: http://www.circularlabs.com/download2/download.html)
-a Midi to USB cable, 6$ at ebay or similar (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-6Ft-USB-to- ... 4845aa3f29)

that is pretty much it, appart from a couple of standard USB cables and instrument cables, and the powered monitor you already use with your floor, or the headphones you already have.

-LOW LATENCY OPTION: if you want the best experience out of your looper you will need a bidirectionnal USB audio interface. In my case I got a cheap Digitech RP155 for 50$ at a pawn shop, that has an excellent bidirectionnal USB audio interface (pretty much the only excellent thing it has). In the case of windows you are going to need also ASIO drivers for this interface.

The idea is to control the looper software (Mobius) using one of the buttons on the Floor (or more, but at least you are going to need one). In my case I use the insert button that I find no other use for. Every time you press a floor button there are control changes sent via the midi interface that can be interpreted by the mobius looper to do whatever you want it to do.

For the Midi setup:
-connect the midi-to-usb cable from the floor midi output to any USB port on your computer
-load the drivers for the midi converter if you have not done so already

For the BASIC audio connectivity:
- From Guitar to Floor input
- From Floor left unbalanced output to your powered monitor, as usual
- From Floor right unbalanced output to you line-in or Mic input on your PC
- From your PC speaker or line out output to a second input on your powered monitor

For the LOW LATENCY audio connectivity (the one I use)
- From Guitar to Floor input
- From Floor left unbalanced output to your bidir USB audio interface input 1/4 connector
- From your bidir USB to any USB port on you PC
- From your bidir USB 1/4 output to your powered monitor

Now for the software setup:

I will not give the detailed Mobious setup instructions as you can find those on the software's site. This is just to provide the specifics of the particular setup I'm using.


In my case I use a Mobius script that does the following:
-in RESET mode: when button is pressed, start recording
-in RECORD mode: when button is pressed, stop recording and start playing loop
-in PLAY mode: when button is pressed, start overdubbing
-in OVERDUBBING mode: when button is pressed, stop overdubbing and go to playing
-in any mode: if long press button, go to RESET mode

if you can dedicater more buttons on the Floor you can get a ton of extra functionnality out of the looper.

This is the Mobius script I use and I think is self explanatory:

Code:
!name rec-odub-play

if mode = reset
record
elseif mode = record
play
elseif mode = play
overdub
elseif mode = overdub
play
endif

end

Label sustain
#wait until the second sustain pass (i.e. wait 500 MS instead of 250)
if sustainCount = 2
Reset
endif
end


Just:
-put the script on a text file
-load the script on Mobius
-add a binding between the Floor midi change control event when you press the intert stomp button and the script

And you are set to go!


I know.. I know.. It would be great to have the looper function inside Fuse or at least the ability to add Mobius as a VST plugin (I asked fender several times to date) but in the meantime this works perfectly for me.


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