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Post subject: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:29 pm
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I am entirely new to playing. I have looked through the forums to find this topic, I could not. So if it is there, I couldn't find it.

I keep getting an echo sound or a reverb type sound, and what I want is a clean sound that doesn't echo or drag on. Again, I am new but the sound just keeps echoing. I also cannot get the sounds like I want them. I have download presets and aded them to the amp, and they do not sound anything like what they should. One example is that I want to learn to play Sum 41 - The Hell Song - here is alink to what the guitar should sound like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52jwX5gKBUI) my guitar sounds nothing like this no matter how I adjust it. So, either this amp cannot sound like this and I was mislead by the sales person at guitar center, or I don't know what I am doing, or it's my guitar. Again, I am entirely new to all of this stuff.

I have an epiphone les paul LP100 left handed guitar I am using with this amp that has humbucker pickups and two tone and two volume knobs.

This is extremely frustrating because I cannot get the sounds I am looking for after spending a ton of money on this gear. I am not even playing because every time I go to try to figure this out again I get stuck. I NEED HELP! PLEASE!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:02 pm
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I have download presets and added them to the amp, and they do not sound anything like what they should......So, either this amp cannot sound like this and I was mislead by the sales person at guitar center, or I don't know what I am doing, or it's my guitar. Again, I am entirely new to all of this stuff.


There are a couple of things that come to mind that might be at work here:

1. A lot of the downloadable presets are created by regular users just like you. So it could very well be that the preset you downloaded isn't very accurate due to the skill level of the person who made it.

2. Your Epiphone Les Paul LP100 ... is a very entry level Les Paul. It has a bolt-on neck and lacks the Grover tuners. The pickups are 700T/650R. They might not be close to what the guy from Sum 41 uses.

These amps aren't really designed for people who just want to plug in and play. They do take some work, but personally I think it's pretty cool once you get the sound you want dialed in. Maybe it's just not for you.

Since you apparently don't mind spending "a ton of money" to get the sounds you want, maybe you should look into what amp the guy from Sum 41 uses and see if it's in your price range? I believe they use Marshall and/or Hiwatt amps...

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 pm
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hey - strings is making it sound really hard - it's not - but it might take a little time.
Nothing wrong with your Epi really, though your playing ability will have an enormous effect on the sounds that come out.
You should use the Fuse software - it's much easier to learn what is happenng with that. I'm experienced with pedals/fx and playing guitars (tube amps not so much) but it took me a good few weeks to get tones as I want - but before that I still found the Mustang good to use.
You can remove the echo/delay fx by turning the delay/mod knobs to off position.
Some presets have multiple layers of fx so controlling each really needs Fuse.
Did you read the manual?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:28 pm
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The advanced manual will be a big help. Here:
http://support.fender.com/manuals/guita ... nglish.pdf


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:35 am
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markcc wrote:
hey - strings is making it sound really hard - it's not

Sorry, didn't mean to make it sound like brain surgery, I really meant what you said:

strings10927 wrote:
They do take some work

markcc wrote:
it might take a little time.


It's just when I hear someone saying they are spending too much time tweaking and not enough time playing, I wonder if a modeling amp is really what they wanted, tweaking kind of comes with the territory.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:50 pm
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hi strings > yes I wondered if I came over a bit harsh - you're totally right - it's easy to get bogged down in tweaking

I have a rule that I only plug the laptop in at weekends, so rest of the week no fiddling , just playing!
Now I have a few sounds I'm pleased with I stick with them.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:42 pm
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I think a bit of what everyone is saying is correct. Spending more time learning the gear in general (guitar, amp, software) is going to help a ton. Primarily what I was looking for was pointers to get me headed in the right direction. And, no I don't have a ton of money to spend. I went over budget on what I have. And, it's all nice stuff and I picked based on a lot of time looking into these items and finding that for an entry level package this is going to be great.

I am also learning that the height of the humbuckers effects the "sustain" which may be what I am referring to when I am talking about an echo. When I strum the strings the sound just keeps going. It isn't nice and clean, and tight. There is a lot of "sustain" on the end of it. Since I am new I am probably using the wrong terminology. And, I haven't been able to put as much time into this stuff as I would like. I have school that I am finishing and graduating in August so I am working hard on that and this was a b-day gift to myself. I have been wanting to play since about 2006, and have been holding off this whole time because I couldn't afford it on a college students budget. I finally went for it about 2.5 mo ago. Had a lot of things going on in school. I am on break now, and have time to play with it. Sooo, soory about dragging on but yes I do need to learn about tuning my guitar more. Getting the sound I want using volume/tone knobs, and adjusting the amp the get the sounds I want out of this thing.

I have seen the demo's of this amp. And, I know it's an awesome amp once I know what I am doing with it. So, I guess I have to learn the details before I can just start strumming along with all my practice material.

Thanks for all of your responses. I will keep working at it, and I am sure I will be back posting with more questions soon!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I Settings? Maybe guitar tone/volume knobs...?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:21 am
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When I strum the strings the sound just keeps going

Hmmm, most guitarists long for more sustain on notes! If the notes aren't ending as crisply as you like, that sounds more like playing style rather than an equipment issue. If you pluck a string and leave it to resonate, it will continue for quite a while, and the amplifier will accentuate that. That's just what strings do...

I'd suggest you look at techniques for damping/muting notes to make them end when you want them to. A good trick, particularly if you're playing barre chords (as you can affect all six strings simultaneously), is just to relax the left hand slightly at the point you want the sound to stop; the slight release in pressure on the strings (and their consequent lifting away from the frets) will deaden the sound. It needs a bit of practise to get the 'feel' and exact amount of 'lift' right. I hope I've explained it well enough for you to experiment.

Or if it is an equipment setting, check you don't have a compressor-effect turned on anywhere - or adjust its settings so it doesn't boost the later (decay) part of the note so much, for so long.

The other thing of course is that maybe you have the volume too high which is amplifying more of the note for longer. You could try turning down the volume, and plucking/strumming more strongly, to give a louder 'attack' to the note and thus maintain the same initial note volume, but with the tail of the note decaying sooner.


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