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What would you rather have for your Floor?
MS-4 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
EXP-1 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
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Post subject: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:17 am
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I don't understand what having an MS-4 plugged into my Floor would give me that I don't already have without it. Could some please help me out here.


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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:54 pm
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Hi Super4wesomeGreat,

Basically, you would gain some additional control buttons to use at the same time as the built in buttons on your Fender Mustang Floor. So, if you are using the Mustang Floor to control effects on/off, you could then use your MS-4 to control stepping through Presets and or QA Preset access, etc. Please let us know if we can assist further. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:29 am
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Hi there.
I get really confused by all the configurations of footswitches - I have a Mustang 4, and both the 2 and 4 button switches and am considering buying the Fender Floor..I never really understood totally what real extra benefit you got from hooking up the 2 and 4 button switches and am even less clear about what options are available extra if I buy the Floor and link in with my existing 4 button.
Can anyone summarise what can be done thru connecting up the 2 and 4 button switches compared to hooking up the 4 button and the Floor?

Any help gratefully received

Thanks
SGSonic01 :?


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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:02 am
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FWIW, pages 6 & 7 in the Mustang Floor manual explain how the MS-4 can be used w/ the Floor. The manual can be downloaded free if you don't have it already. Looks useful. I may have to get the MS-4 for my Floor.


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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:45 am
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Great Advice
Thanks DapperDan I will download it and have a read
SGSonic01 8)


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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:00 am
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I have read through the manual for the Floor and am still confused really over what you get for spending another £230 on the Floor in comparison to what you can do with combining the 4 button and 2 button footswitches.
In what ways does having the Floor simplfy or improve the playing live experience and swapping between various pre-sets etc/ swapping effects in / out ?
Seems as if in certain respects buying the Floor is just duplicating a lot of the existing functionality you get if you set up the 2 and 4 button switches correctly or am I missing the point?
Think the brochures for both the Mustang 4 and the Floor could have been much clearer in describing in detail what can be achieved with the various combinations of 2 , 4 button footswitches and Floor unit itself

Still unclear exactly on the following if anyone can help me?

1: what exactly you can do using the 2 and 4 button footswitches together?

2: What is the additional benefit gained from using the Floor with the 4 button I already have?
3: Understanding that if I go for option 2 above does this render the 2 button footswitch obsolete?
4: Adding another level of complexity - given the Floor has an onboard Expression pedal- what is the additional benefit of buying the EXP 1 optional pedal?

Can anyone summarise for me the benefits and whats possible with each combination of the above?

Many Thanks again :?
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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:17 am
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I'm not sure you're asking the right question. The footswitches and the M-Floor are different beasts.

The 2- and 4-button footswitches are used to control the Mustang amps. A Mustang amp is a digital processing unit (a "modelling amp") plus a power amp, cabinet and speaker. You don't need the footswitches to use the amp, their purpose is to make some of the control easier in a live-playing environment (ie where your hands are on the guitar so your feet are all you have available to press the amp buttons!).

The Mustang Floor is a self-contained digital processing unit, without a power amp, cabinet and speaker. It provides all the same* modelling and effects as are contained in a Mustang amp. It has its own buttons and expression pedal to control it. All its buttons are footswitches because it's designed to be used as a floor unit during playing. It has more footswitches than the amp footswitch controls, because they're the only controls it has; it doesn't have knobs etc like the amps do, for example.

The Mustang Floor isn't a control unit for a Mustang amp. Yes, you can feed the output of the M-Floor into a Mustang amp, but that's purely an audio connection, the M-Floor's buttons won't change anything on the amp. More normally, you'd feed the M-Floor into a PA system or a 'neutral' amplifier, rather than another modelling amplifier.

So they're different products for different applications. If you want a combo amp (or head/cab in the case of the M-V) with modelling and effects built-in, then buy one of the Mustang amps, then buy the footswitches for it if you need foot control. If you just want a modelling and effects unit that you plan to use with a PA or other existing amp, then buy the M-Floor. I don't think it's useful to try and decide which to buy based mainly on the different footwitch options they each have - buy the one that suits your purpose and then work with the footswitches available for it.

*for complete accuracy: almost identical, there are a couple of small differences


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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:53 am
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Thanks for the advice
I was definitely looking at the M-Floor as an upgrade to overcome some of the perceived limitations with using the modelling amp -M-4 in my case with the supplied 4 button and additional 2 button footswitches...I read a lot of posts that suggested this was what Fender was aiming to do - i.e. appeal to those of us that had already got the modelling amp and were feeling the limitations of just using the supplied 4 button footswitch and this is why when I was reading up on this earlier I was struggling to make the case to myself for going out and buying one.
Your post has clarified for me that I was looking at this from the wrong perspective and I can see more clearly its USP is more for people that may want to go into a neutral amp or straight into the PA.
I need to reassess starting with understanding all the configurations I can get out of the 4+2 button set up so thanks again.
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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:30 pm
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The 4-button footswitch when added to the floor gives you quick preset access buttons in addition to the normal function of the Floor's buttons. The Floor is an amp in and of itself, so buying a Mustand Floor to connect to a Mustang Amp makes little to no sense. It has the same presets, amp models, stomps and mods and interface as the Mustang III, IV and V.

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Post subject: Re: Floor + MS-4...what is gained?
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:04 am
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Tiger J wrote:
The 4-button footswitch when added to the floor gives you quick preset access buttons in addition to the normal function of the Floor's buttons. The Floor is an amp in and of itself, so buying a Mustand Floor to connect to a Mustang Amp makes little to no sense. It has the same presets, amp models, stomps and mods and interface as the Mustang III, IV and V.


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