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Post subject: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:33 pm
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I bought a Mustang II over the weekend, but I was sold on the amp based on my experience in the store playing a III, and especially the Gomez Clean preset. I have installed fuse, poked around and found a download for Gomez Clean but unfortunately it ain't the same experience. Looking at the settings from the download, the gain is far too high. I have no way of knowing that what I played in the store was factory settings but based on the title, I'm assuming there shouldn't be much gain in the patch. It appears that the signal chain is correct though, based on the preset listings that I found on the knowledge base. Yeah, I suppose I could tweak and play around with the knobs but I was hoping to get another download of the preset, or short of that, at least the knob settings. Thanks in advance for your help.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:49 pm
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Hi,

just to be clear, the difference in tone you are talking about, are you positive is not related to using a different guitar/pickup nor the fact the speaker and cabinet you tried are different from the one you have now?

never tried a M2 but my suggestion would be, in terms of speaker/cabinet difference, for you to start with the preset you downloaded and play around with different cabinet emulations, this has a huge impact on tone.

and in terms of pickups, try to use something similar to what you tried at the store, or to TRY to compensate for it with the tone stack, OD stomp or compressor stomp. As an example, the Marshall plexi amp emulation (british 70) sounds totally horrible with the texas specials on my strat but is totally sweet with the pearly gates HB on the same exact guitar!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:56 pm
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jedi2b wrote:
Hi,

just to be clear, the difference in tone you are talking about, are you positive is not related to using a different guitar/pickup nor the fact the speaker and cabinet you tried are different from the one you have now?



Appreciate your comments. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is not single-coil vs. humbucker tone thing. I grabbed a used guitar at GC when testing the III, which closely matched one that I own and that I used to test the amp at home. Sure, there could be some tonal differences between the two guitars but at the end of the day, this is about ethereal, pristine clean (store III) vs. flat and a bit dirty (preset from community). As I said in my original post, I'm pretty sure there was next to no gain in the store, but it's possible somebody tweaked it. Would just like to get some confirmation from a III owner, and possibly some preset info.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:59 pm
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As soon as I find the time I will load the preset and try to record using a line out (which is the same result you should get) and micing the speaker and post the result so you can compare.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:23 pm
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Ok here we go.

I did the same short recording with Audacity twice, with a looper as source, so you can hear the exact same pentatonic notes and barre chords in both recordings.

The pickup is a neck single coil texas special on a strat, guitar volume up to 8, tone 9.

I used the Gomez clean preset as found on FUSE library.


The first one has been done using Mustang USB recording interface
http://snd.sc/Yh0ksg

The second one is the exact same clip, but with a mic recording, is pretty similar only some very high end tones missing.
http://snd.sc/PDMbFA


Not sure if this sounds anything like your Mustang 2, but is pretty clean to me (well, with some annoying delay maybe :)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:09 am
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Your samples sound a tad cleaner than my amp. I hear some grit in mine but I might chalk that up to humbucker vs single coil, and guitar volume pot dimed vs not. Regardless, I'm beginning to think the store III had been tweaked because there was something really memorable about that tone. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time that I was enamored with tone, put the setup together to duplicate it, but was never able to achieve the original tone. The tone journey continues I guess.

Thanks for taking the time to respond with samples.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III owners, your Gomez Clean settings
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:34 am
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Hey no problem.

by the way, there are several tone doctors on call all the time here so if you explain a bit the difference in tone you are trying to achieve we could give you a hand. You have so may tweakable settings that you may get lost until you get used to it.

Based on your comment that you find the preset too "gainy" here are some suggestions. Try each one separatelly and go back to the base preset after each try or you may go out of control very soon.

-disable the compressor
-turn off the bright switch on the amp model on fuse
-in advanced amp settings, tur SAG to "more"
-try moving the compressor to the post-amp position

probably not related to what you are looking for, but give it a try as is one of my favorites: in advanced amp settings, increase the value of bias setting +25 to +50 usually works well.

Have fun.


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