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Post subject: Mustang I play along volume level
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:57 pm
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When I plug my ipod into the aux input to play along with, I can't get the guitar play along sound loud enough. The ipod device volume is zero but it still comes through very loud on the amp. When I turn the master volume down to an acceptable level, I can barely hear the guitar. How do I turn the guitar input volume up independently of the aux in volume?


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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:01 pm
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Well, make sure that the volume on your guitar is all the way up. Also, by increasing the volume and gain, you can make the guitar sound louder and that should not increase the volume of the Aux in, though they may change the quality of the sound of the guitar. I would experiment with those. Good luck!


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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:17 pm
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Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, the guitar voulme is all the way up. I did some gain and volume adjustments and it did get louder although with gain at 10 and volume at 10 and guitar at 10, it is still not very loud compared to the ipod with the master volume around 4. Also, it seems that changing the gain and volume controls changes the amp sound presets so that is not optimal. I will have to play around with some different presets. The musicians in my ipod just want to play louder than me and I need to blow them away. It's almost as if I need a -db adapter for the ipod to reduce the signal.


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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:13 pm
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The ipod at 0 would be silent. If not there is an issue with the ipod. Use the ipod volume to control the mix of the ipod.


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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:39 am
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Mustang III owner here. But I run into similar problems. I like to play along with jam tracks that I've downloaded or made myself. Problem is there's no consistency in volume level from on track to the next. Also if I change the preset, the volume of the preset could be drasticaly different. So I constantly have to tweak my levels to get a good mix from one song to the next. It really disrupts my groove when I have to start the song over once or twice to get my mix right.

I'm not sure if there is good fix for this, besides planning ahead and knowing where your levels should be for each song, or equalize all your tracks with 3rd party software...

But I think an independent level control for the aux in could be a step in the right direction. Even if it was only in FUSE, or make it controllable by the EXP-1, it would be better than nothing.


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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:53 am
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an independent level control for the aux in

As per drpietrzak's reply, doesn't the device plugged into the aux-in already provide that with its own volume control? Hence why I guess Fender didn't feel the need to provide one. However, I agree that having it controllable with a footswitch would be good - maybe Apple will make an iFootSwitch for their iPod :). Or just add an inline stereo volume pedal - eg Boss FV500 etc, between the 'aux' device and the aux-in socket. Not cheap but would do what's required.

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the volume of the preset could be drasticaly different

As has been discussed in other topics, there are several ways to equalise the volume of different presets, and I consider this just a standard part of setting-up the amp. One would have to do this regardless of whether anything's plugged into aux-in, or what its volume is.

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The ipod device volume is zero but it still comes through very loud on the amp

Then either the ipod is broken or the ipod volume wasn't really zero. Here's a test to try:

With the ipod volume set to what you think or what it is telling you is zero, and confirming that this does still give sound through the amp, unplug the ipod from the amp and plug in its normal headphones. Do you still get sound through the headphones? Is there anything you can adjust on the ipod itself at this point to reduce the volume to zero? (not any volume control on the headphones themselves, if they have one, or on their connecting lead - if the headphones do have their own volume control, make sure it's set to max for this test).

If you can adjust anything on the ipod itself to get silence (or very, very quiet sound) from the headphones, what happens if you now plug the ipod into the amp again, without changing anything on the ipod? Do you get silence (or very quiet sound) or do you still get loud sound?


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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:17 am
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an independent level control for the aux in

As per drpietrzak's reply, doesn't the device plugged into the aux-in already provide that with its own volume control? Hence why I guess Fender didn't feel the need to provide one. However, I agree that having it controllable with a footswitch would be good - maybe Apple will make an iFootSwitch for their iPod :). Or just add an inline stereo volume pedal - eg Boss FV500 etc, between the 'aux' device and the aux-in socket. Not cheap but would do what's required.

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the volume of the preset could be drasticaly different

As has been discussed in other topics, there are several ways to equalise the volume of different presets, and I consider this just a standard part of setting-up the amp. One would have to do this regardless of whether anything's plugged into aux-in, or what its volume is.

Yeah. I realize there are advantages and limitations of the Aux In. I was just spitballilng some ideas to make it more user friendly. If I was setting up for a gig I'd definitely take the time to set everything up before hand.

Normaly I have my MIII connected to my computer with the speaker out to the aux in for monitoring. Sometimes I just like to grab random jam tracks and see what I can do on the fly. I can adjust the volume on the computer (ie, the input deivce), which is what I have to do every time I start a new track. Not a major problem for home practice purposes, just one of those little things I wish I could control more efficiently. Instead of - start the song, adjust. Restart the song, adjust a little more. Restart the song, OK that's good. Being able to adjust with a foot controller would definitely help.

Hmmm, maybe I could invest in a mixing board and just deal with sliders...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I play along volume level
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:34 pm
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Hi TRiff,

I wanted to check in here and see if you have been able to sort out anything with the input level issue on your iPod and your amp's Aux input? Please let us know how it is going. We are happy to assist in any way we can. Thanks.

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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:46 pm
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The comment above about Ipod volume being zero should get zero volume through the amp sounded correct but was not happening which was perplexing to me. My Ipod volume is disabled when I plug it into the amp. I can only change the Ipod volume after disconnecting it from the amp. Sure enough, take the volume to zero and no sound comes from the Ipod. However plug it into the amp and you get the same volume no matter if Ipod is set to zero or full.

So that brought me to the question why the Ipod control doesn't work. Is my Ipod broken? I haven't plugged another device in yet but now I suspect my connection cable plugs. I used to run my Ipod through my big amp like you would plug in a guitar. One end is the stereo plug that plugs into the amp and the other end is the connector for the Ipod, not the headphone output on the Ipod. I think that setup gives you full volume on the Ipad no matter the setting. Of course, that is what I am getting. That was fine plugging into an amp with dual inputs with separate volume controls.

I am going to get a headphone out plug to plug straight into the aux in so I don't use the Ipod output that connects to a usb port. That way the volume control on the Ipod will probably work while plugged into the amp. I will post the results but I am ptretty sure that's it. I just have to get the correct cable to test.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I play along volume level
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:21 am
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Hi TRiff,

Thanks for the extra information. So, it sounds like you may not have had a chance to connect the iPod to your amp with a standard 1/8" to 1/8" stereo cable yet. I would definitely recommend doing that. And please let us know if we can assist further.

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:22 pm
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I dug in my bag of cables and found a 1/8 to 1/8 plug. It now works properly although my connection is bad. I need to get a newer cable. Then, on to more fun. Playing along to tracks on my Ipod is exactly what I was after, especially with the headphones on so I can play more freely, more often. Thanks for the help. :D


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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:57 pm
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One additional note. Can you plug an Ipod into the amps USB port and play it through that port? I don't see that in the instructions anywhere.


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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:35 am
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Can you plug an Ipod into the amps USB port and play it through that port?

My understanding is no, you can't do this. The Mustang's USB port does two things: interacts with FUSE, and outputs audio. It can't accept audio as input, either from an ipod (or similar) or a computer.


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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:54 am
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Hi Guys,

scott-uk is correct. You cannot use the USB port beyond the Fender FUSE software and as a computer interface. Please let us know if we can assist further.

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