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Post subject: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:52 pm
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I am looking at getting a footswitch to change between 2 presets for my Mustang II. I have researched this extensively through Google and looked through the Mustang forum to find what footswitches I can use, but...

I am getting confused with all the mixed information. I know the Fender 1-button switch is recommended by the manual, but I feel as if it's an odd design and would rather something more sturdy-looking and flat. I have seen that people have gotten the BOSS FS-5L to work with the Mustang II, but it has an LED. Apparently a single-button latching footswitch with an LED won't work? :?

Can people tell me what switches similar to the latched BOSS switch they have gotten to work with the Mustang II?

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:06 am
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For the Mustang I and II, you simply need an on/off circuit-breaking switch. That's all. You could actually build your own if you got a switch mechanism like that.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:39 pm
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I bought a cheap footswitch with a LED and auto polarity which didn't work. Bridged out the LED and polarity stuff and it works OK. Even with the just the LED circuit active the switch didn't work.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:54 pm
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Thanks for the replies so far.
I'm not very good with finding the right thing when it comes to this kind of stuff - I can't really build my own (and I'd rather not as I'm kinda busy with school work), and I don't know how to tweak already built switches.
I'm sorry, but I'm not very educated with guitar equipment, that's pretty much why I'm asking for suggestions. I just want something to do the job that I can get off the Internet for under $40 in price as I'm in a pretty remote area.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:40 am
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What about something like this? Plain and simple.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Single-B ... 46017ea244


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:47 pm
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toopicky wrote:
What about something like this? Plain and simple.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Single-B ... 46017ea244


Sorry, but you must have missed the part where I said I'd rather not a switch designed like that. If that turns out to be the easiest option I guess I will have to get one.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:25 pm
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If you want a sensibly priced pre-made footswitch that will work with the Mustang 2, that's it.

There is no 'easier' option and it looks robust enough to me unless you want to really stomp on it.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:17 pm
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I don't think I will be stomping on it, I'm just a bit hesitant because I fear that I'll accidentally break it when I'm taking it with me to band practice, or I'll trip on it. I'm clumsy and tend to have bad luck when it comes to anything electronic :( I can't afford to have to by another.

I just really wanted to hear people's experiences with getting different switches to work so I could have some options!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:29 am
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[quote="georgiainsanity"] I know the Fender 1-button switch is recommended by the manual, but I feel as if it's an odd design and would rather something more sturdy-looking and flat.[/ quote]

Ok, how about something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEAVEY-REPLACEM ... 4d03506ffc

Sturdy, flat design, under $40 ($14.95 + FREE shipping).
I don't think you'll find anthing closer to what you're looking for.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:38 pm
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toopicky wrote:
Ok, how about something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEAVEY-REPLACEM ... 4d03506ffc

Sturdy, flat design, under $40 ($14.95 + FREE shipping).
I don't think you'll find anthing closer to what you're looking for.

That is definitely more of what I was looking for! If this will work with my Mustang I'd prefer this much more to the Fender type design switch. It's also the same price range as the Fender switch, even though the shipping probably won't be free as I'm located in Australia (but I don't mind that).

Thanks for that link, toopicky! :D


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:42 pm
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Hi georgiainsanity,

Please see the Fender foot switch part number below. I think you will find it quite affordable at your favorite music retailer. Please let us know if we can assist further.


Optional 1-Button Footswitch for Toggling 2 Quick Access Presets (P/N 099-4049-000)

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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:51 pm
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Hi georgiainsanity,

Please see the Fender foot switch part number below. I think you will find it quite affordable at your favorite music retailer. Please let us know if we can assist further.


Optional 1-Button Footswitch for Toggling 2 Quick Access Presets (P/N 099-4049-000)

I'm well aware of that switch, but as I've said I am not very enthusiastic about its design. Also, I'm not inclined to visit a music store as it's a long trip :( thank you for your response nonetheless.
I do have another question though: I saw a one button Fender footswitch, not the model recommended, but this one http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifie ... footswitch ... this won't work with the Mustang II, will it? It's one button and a channel select, so I thought it might work. If it won't work, could you explain the deal as to why? And how LEDs affect what switches work? I like the design of this switch - flat and sturdy. :)
Would this switch work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marshall-Footsw ... 1c2031afd9


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:13 am
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how LEDs affect what switches work?

An LED requires a power supply - ie a supply voltage and earth/ground return. Amps that use 'simple' footswitches don't provide this. The footswitch just opens and closes a circuit. It's entirely the amp's business what it does with that circuit. The amp is not expecting a voltage drop in the 'loop' to and from the footswitch (as would happen if you put an LED inline in the footswitch), nor is it expecting to be able to drive the current (albeit small) that an LED requires.

It's possible that with some amps, the LED may illuminate and the switching may work. It's more likely the LED won't illuminate and/or the switching won't work.

Amps that use footswitches with LEDs (and other displays) have additional circuitry to deal with this - and the footswitches are more complex than just being circuit-opening/closing switches. In general, you need to use the footswitch intended for the amp. Even though the cables, plugs and sockets connecting footswitches to amps are often the same (1/4" jacks etc), that doesn't mean they're interconnectable.

Even with a 'simple' circuit-opening/closing footswitch, which are the most interchangeable, you still need to know whether to use a momentary-action switch or a latching switch.

If you really don't like the style/sturdiness of the Fender switch, you could always re-house its switch mechanism and wiring in a different (metal, flat, square - seems to be what you want) case quite simply. Obviously this would void your warranty and wouldn't be approved by Fender - and although I agree with you that the Fender switch does look a bit odd, it's probably not worth the effort of changing it. Just use it as it is, it will be fine.

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what your fingers do on the strings, try not to worry about the rest (and yes I have to keep telling myself that too!)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:29 am
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scott-uk,
Thank you very much for your explanation. Very helpful to me as I know little about this topic! I am still deciding what to do, but this helps me even more with my decision. :)

I just used my Mustang at band practice, and a footswitch may have been nice but it isn't necessary right now. But I will most likely be getting one before the end of the year.
I did experience a very bad sound on some presets; like the Metal 2000, after I had used my hand to mute the strings between playing. I released the strings and my amp went nuts. It was very frustrating. There was also a lot of fuzzing when not playing. Not sure what caused it but I wasn't happy with it, might have been my cable or my guitar though.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang II - What footswitches are compatible?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:44 am
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I did experience a very bad sound on some presets; like the Metal 2000, after I had used my hand to mute the strings between playing. I released the strings and my amp went nuts. It was very frustrating

Sounds like a classic case of feedback. High-gain settings will do this more (hence noticing it on Metal 2000 etc). In brief, the sound (even tiny) from the guitar strings is amplified through the amp, the sound from the amp speakers causes the strings to resonate more, which then gets amplified more, and so on. Try to stand further away from the amp, not facing it, and not directly in front of it. Even moving a couple of feet to one side of it can make a big difference.

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a lot of fuzzing when not playing

One of the ironies of an amp that accurately models other analogue amps is that it accurately models all the deficiencies in that analogue circuitry too, including background noise, hum, etc. Personally, I think modelling amps would be better if they were a little less authentic in this regard and suppressed the noise! I'd suggest you turn the noise gate on. It's under 'advanced' amp settings in Fuse, don't know if you can get to it from any if the knobs directly on a Mustang 2 (you can on the M 3, 4 and 5).

If you don't know what a noise gate is or why it's useful, it's probably easier if you search the net as I'm sure others have written better explanations than I'd manage here.


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