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Post subject: Firmware request
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:46 am
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Fender, please, please, please, increase the output levels of the clean amp models so that they match those designed for overdriven sounds. Thank you.

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:34 pm
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Yeah, I would agree... switching up/down through the presets is pretty annoying, because you constantly have to be messing with the volume control.


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:05 pm
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Violin Parent wrote:
Fender, please decline to take these requests, or at least omit the M4 from it. These requests seem only to relate to $99 8" speaker M1s. Thanks.

i have the M5 with the 412 cab and I also find the clean amps really low volume. It's bad to adjust all other presets to adjust to the cleans. By the way, I had the same problem with my old Spider.

I would love it something could be done about it.


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:39 pm
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On the Mustang-III the volume level is very low on some presets - the way it is now if you're on one of these low-volume presets and switch to the next one you're likely to blow your windows out! :) I would be happy if they were just grouped together instead of being randomly interspersed... that would make using the footswitch to go up/dwn a lot more enjoyable.


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:43 pm
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You guys do realize that Fender already has a "VOLUME" knob on EVERY AMP that is put there specifically for volume-levelling across presets, right? That Volume knob is not an amp volume knob and has no effect on "power tube" simulation for that amp. For that, you have the "Master Volume" knob hidden under the ADVANCED tab.

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:18 am
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FFXIhealer wrote:
You guys do realize that Fender already has a "VOLUME" knob on EVERY AMP that is put there specifically for volume-levelling across presets, right? That Volume knob is not an amp volume knob and has no effect on "power tube" simulation for that amp. For that, you have the "Master Volume" knob hidden under the ADVANCED tab.


That "Volume" knob does not increase the low output level of models like the Twin, or the Deluxe or Princeton when set to low gain for clean sounds. These amps are pretty loud in real life and lots of people use them for clean tones... why not the models?

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:30 am
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I too would like to see the volume equalized on the twin models especially. If fender should decide to do this perhaps it could be an optional upgrade so those who have no issue with it dont have to upgrade. I know, 2 firmware releases is a pian and confusing but we can deal; simply choose the upgrade with or without the volume "fix."


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:56 pm
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lawman5297 wrote:
I too would like to see the volume equalized on the twin models especially. If fender should decide to do this perhaps it could be an optional upgrade so those who have no issue with it dont have to upgrade. I know, 2 firmware releases is a pian and confusing but we can deal; simply choose the upgrade with or without the volume "fix."


I think that that is really unnecessary. If Fender does make this change in the next firmware update, it won't affect the other users in any meaningful way. It'll just make their softer clean sounds louder. They'll just have to turn them down which is eminently easier than trying to boost a weak signal. Remember it's not a problem to turn something down IF you have enough output to deal with in the first place. As I said in another thread, there are exactly ZERO downsides to this idea.

To those opposed to this idea:
As evidenced by the fact that the higher gain models are indesputably more than capable of getting the amp to be very loud and can take advantage of the power amp's available wattage, so too should the clean amp sounds. We're not asking to turn a Ford Pinto into a Ford Mustang Shelby, the power is already there in the amps so we're not asking for more power. We understand the power limitations of each Mustang amp. However, why prevent the clean amp models within the same amp from being able to use that available power? It just does not make ANY sense whatsoever.

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:23 pm
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Hi Guys,

We appreciate your input here. We will pass it along to the related engineer. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:41 pm
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I can't count the number of sensible feature requests that have been made on this forum and been 'noted' or 'passed on' by the Fender reps, but apparently gone nowhere.

I would be interested to know if Fender has an action list of these things, and whether some of them really are under active development, or have we been wasting our time raising them over the past 12 months ?


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:36 pm
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depepat wrote:
I would be interested to know if Fender has an action list of these things, and whether some of them really are under active development, or have we been wasting our time raising them over the past 12 months ?


Can't speak for Fender, but a couple off the top of my head that did get some love and which made it into our hands are the wah changes and the mid control on the MI/II (besides the bug fixes, and other planned features like expression pedal controls that have been enabled/implemented since the first release).

If I had to guess I'd say there are many more of us (users) than there are of them (Fender developers/testers) so quite likely we can generate ideas faster than they can possibly address them--and if their workplace is anything like mine they're likely lean or understaffed to boot. (They may also prefer not to implement some suggestions for free as well, even if they're good ideas.)

Hopefully as the more popular ideas are reiterated, Fender will consider the requests as votes in prioritizing them (so, certainly no harm in reminding them from time to time).

It would indeed be interesting though, if Fender cares to share whether they actually have a work list based on forum ideas.

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:00 am
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I'm very happy to acknowledge that a few user ideas from members on this forum have made it through to be implemented, but I'm also well aware that 'noting' or 'passing on' ideas to the development team is a very convenient (and industry standard) way of appearing to be responding to user requests while in practice doing nothing about them.

Hence the request for even some general information about what is actually being worked on and when we might get to see it (subject of course to normal commercial considerations).


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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:11 am
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Well, I have to give Fender the benefit of the doubt here. I don't think that all these feature requests are as easy to implement as we might think - and I'm including my own requests in this statement. That said, the fact that they have implemented two fairly important user requests (that I can remember off the top of my head), the Midrange control on the MI/II and the USB Volume control, leads me to think that they do in fact try to implement what we ask for. The other thing is that I don't think most of us really have any idea of what is involved and even if some of us have a background in Electrical or Software Engineering, we're not Fender engineers. I am admittedly not an engineer but I know just enough to be very dangerous because I have a lot of friends who are practicing electrical/software engineers. I often check with one of them in particular just to be sure that what I'm about to post is actually possible and not completely hair-brained and unreasonable.


On the other hand... without us users continually poking and prodding companies like Fender, we likely would not have things like the MI/II's new Midrange Control or the USB Volume Control.


Just sayin'...

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:47 am
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I think that another thing that people are missing is that many (most/all?) of the requests I've seen haven't been "simple" electronics changes, but have been software based. Every idea would have to be programmed, and then that program segment patched into the existing code, and then tested for months to see if adding that particular feature broke anything else.

Imagine how loudly everyone would scream if Fender rushed a firmware update out the door that ended up breaking something or causing glitches somewhere else!!!

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Post subject: Re: Firmware request
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:09 am
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Agreed, thompal.

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