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Post subject: Is it possible...?
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:04 pm
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Greetings from Fullerton!

The Mustang III is a great sounding amp, am able to play gigs without spending hours tweaking, and tweaking on the fly at the gig is actually possible!

BUT:
Is it possible to remove the chassis from the Mustang III?

Inquiring minds want to know.

After removing all the screws, it still appears to be glued in permanently.
It was bought used, so no warranty worries.

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Are they really meant to be this unserviceable/disposable?


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:38 pm
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Don't own an MIII but the MI and MII don't even have what I would call a chassis. You can take off the back panel and see the circuit boards mounted onto the control panel.

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:38 am
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You have to use a putty knife to pry off the back panel. Don't remove the screws completely. Leave it firmly attached to the back panel but not the rest of the amp and pull on the screws as you pry the back off with the putty knife.

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:21 pm
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evets618 wrote:
It was bought used, so no warranty worries.

Why in the world is this the case, anyway? :? :arrow: All Fender® instrument warranties apply to the original purchaser only.

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:58 am
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strings10927 wrote:
evets618 wrote:
It was bought used, so no warranty worries.

Why in the world is this the case, anyway? :? :arrow: All Fender® instrument warranties apply to the original purchaser only.


Hmm. Mine says it's a fully transferrable 5 year warranty!!!

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:10 pm
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Orcatraz wrote:
You have to use a putty knife to pry off the back panel. Don't remove the screws completely. Leave it firmly attached to the back panel but not the rest of the amp and pull on the screws as you pry the back off with the putty knife.

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The THREE, not the TWO. The THREE has what appears to be a BOTTOM panel, but it also appears to be firmly glued. Removing screws does not allow anything to be moved.
Or removed.
Thanks.


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:38 am
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evets618 wrote:
The THREE, not the TWO. The THREE has what appears to be a BOTTOM panel, but it also appears to be firmly glued. Removing screws does not allow anything to be moved.
Or removed.
Thanks.


Oh, sorry. I wonder, are there two nuts that line up with the amp's handle? I remember some amps used to use really long bolts coming down from the ends of the handle to help it have a better anchor point and distribute the weight when you lift the amp. If there are, I wonder if this is what Fender has done.

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm
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Hi evets618,

It sounds like your amp is working normally and you are happy with it. May I ask why you want to take it apart?

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:00 am
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Was thinking about a pine cab in tweed.


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:52 am
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Well Alan, there you have it. Another happy Mustang user who thinks these amps deserve better than their particle board cabinets. I really believe that a Mustang Pro with upgraded electronic components and cabinet materials would do quite well. Thanks.

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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:03 am
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Quote:
a Mustang Pro with upgraded electronic components and cabinet materials

+1

Also a "Studio" version (I think that's the name that seems to be used for this type of thing...) that has all the top-of-the-range features but in a lower-powered amp.


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:33 am
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scott-uk wrote:
+1

Also a "Studio" version (I think that's the name that seems to be used for this type of thing...) that has all the top-of-the-range features but in a lower-powered amp.


A lower powered amp would only be necessary if the Mustangs were valve amps. Solid state amps are very linear and don't really have a "sweet spot" like valve amps do. That's the reason why they make low powered valve amps - so that you can get them cooking in that "sweet spot" without them being unnecessarily loud.
A good solid state power amp will sound the same, tonally, at 5 watts or 1000 as long as it's not distorting. The only difference will be the loudness. The bottom line is that there is no advantage to having a low powered solid state amp. In fact, it's never really a good idea - with Solid State, you want as much power as you can get.

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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:29 am
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Orcatraz, agree with all you say. Reason for wanting a lower power SS amp is slightly different though.

With my MIV, I never get the master vol above 2 or 3 for "at home" volumes. So I have a very small knob movement to control all the usable volume range. It goes from too quiet to too loud, too easily. I'd like the same volume range over a larger rotation of the knob, just to make it easier to control, and to stop me accidentally going too loud.

Actually, they could probably do this with firmware - have a "power attenuation mode" that cuts the volume in half (or to a quarter, or ...) for the same control positions. Hmmm, I like that idea - Mr Alan Fender Willey, if you read this please could you suggest it to the right folks at the factory? :)

Although, another reason for a lower powered SS amp is that if it doesn't have to go so loud, they could use a smaller cabinet and smaller speakers, and still get a good FRFR response (given that the Mustang power amp is just an FRFR amp, all the tone having been generated in the modelling; it's not like a 'normal' guitar amp whereby the cab and (distinctly non-FRFR) speaker are part of the tone generation). That would make it lighter, smaller, easier to store/transport, etc without compromising sound.


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:14 am
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"Mustang Pro with upgraded electronic components and cabinet materials would do quite well. Thanks."

+1, have previously made the same comment. Add in a tilt-able control panel!!!


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Post subject: Re: Is it possible...?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:16 am
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One way to spread out the effect of the master is to lower the patch volume. It's the knob next to GAIN on the first amp editing page.
The BIAS and SAG controls also affect the headroom, loudness, presence, and saturation of the patch.
YMMV.


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