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Post subject: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:11 am
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I have no problems with Fender Asio drivers (Mustang II/ energyXT 2.6) - maybe the latency could be better. So has anybody compared asio4all with Fende asio drivers?


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:11 pm
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It appears to be the same driver with some options removed from the Fender version.

I can't use either one because of intermittent crackling noise during playback of any type of audio file, no problem with the native Windows driver. Looks like my Realtek integrated audio is not compatible with ASIO.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:01 pm
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More or less the same result for me. Whenever i'm recording, after say, 15 minutes, i'll have to reset the driver because playback starts crackling.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:10 pm
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I use ASIO4All and almost all of my latency disappeared.

I also get crackling using it with my Mustang amps, but strangely enough when I use ASIO4All with my Rocksmith USB cable, I don't. EVER.

This leads me to believe that it has something to do with the Mustang itself.

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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:26 pm
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If I use the Fender ASIO without the Mustang input enabled, the crackling doesn't happen, so probably.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:43 pm
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I get the crackling noise with any .wav or .mp3 backing track during playback even if I'm not recording, tried all sorts of settings in ASIO4All. It doesn't seem to be a problem with the Mustang in any way, I've tried with Ableton, Reaper and Adobe Audition and they all have the same problem, if I select the native driver I have no noise. I read somewher that ASIO is not compatible with some sound cards.

It's not that big of a deal for me, I don't monitor the the amp in the DAW while I'm recording and compensate for the latency in the options.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:31 pm
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Hi Guys,

I don't see anyone here mentioning adjustment to buffer settings. That is usually a first "go-to" step for the type of behavior that is being described here. Please check out buffer settings in the various DAWs mentioned here, and see if increasing or even decreasing (in some DAWs/PCs) helps. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:46 pm
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Alan Willey - Fender wrote:
Hi Guys,

I don't see anyone here mentioning adjustment to buffer settings. That is usually a first "go-to" step for the type of behavior that is being described here. Please check out buffer settings in the various DAWs mentioned here, and see if increasing or even decreasing (in some DAWs/PCs) helps. Thanks.


Hey Alan,

I spent a lot of time playing around with the buffer settings in both the asio4all and the Fender version with no luck. Playback may be ok for a couple of minutes then the noise starts even if I'm not recording, it's not a big deal though. I can still record one track via usb while listening to multiple other tracks with the native drivers just fine, I just compensated for the latency in the recording options of my DAW.

I think I read in another post from Loren that some sound cards are just not compatible with asio, I believe that applies in my case.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:59 pm
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Hi lnowlin,

We seem to be communicating a lot today. :) So, we have seen at times certain PCs which may have poorly implemented audio hardware and/or poorly written drivers, etc. This may contribute to the fact that while ASIO is a standard Windows driver format, there are simply so many PCs in the marketplace that some are just more well suited for audio than others.

Have you worked with buffer settings on both the amp as the input device and the PC as the output device?

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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:48 pm
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Alan Willey - Fender wrote:
Hi lnowlin,

We seem to be communicating a lot today. :) So, we have seen at times certain PCs which may have poorly implemented audio hardware and/or poorly written drivers, etc. This may contribute to the fact that while ASIO is a standard Windows driver format, there are simply so many PCs in the marketplace that some are just more well suited for audio than others.

Have you worked with buffer settings on both the amp as the input device and the PC as the output device?


Hey Alan,

Yes I can be a pest at times.

I gave up trying to solve the noise because I assumed it's a compatibility issue and I removed ASIO from my pc a while back so I can't give you specifics but I tweaked settings for both input and output, several times I thought I had found one that worked only to have the noise start after a couple of minutes of playback. I tried the latest HD Audio driver from the Realtek website. BTW, it's integrated audio so I don't expect a lot and playback sounds good without ASIO so it's really no big deal to me.

The noise I'm hearing doesn't seem to have anything to do with the amp it's only on playback, it happens with mp3's and wav's including the band tracks for Fuse, even tracks recorded via USB with ASIO playback fine with the Windows driver. Same noise with three different DAW's using ASIO, no noise using the Windows drivers. Sounds like a compatibility problem to me.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:39 am
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Looks as if I am not the only one with asio4all and fender driver issues. I downloaded the Abelton8 the free program that comes with the msutang floor. I spent hours trying to adjust buffers, etc and gave up. It just doens't work.

I have ProTracks plus which came with my Digitech GNX4 and its never had a driver issue and only small latency issue which start after i have 12 to 16 tracks recorded.

VERY disapointed so far with this driver issue. I really wanted to use the Abelton and learn that program. BUt now I am stuck. Can't record my floor unless I buy an interface right?


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:25 am
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CHIPSHOT0701 wrote:
Can't record my floor unless I buy an interface right?


Doesn't the Floor have USB i/f like other Mustangs? You should be able to select the Mustang USB as an input using the Windows drivers on just about any DAW. I haven't used Ableton Live for a while but I'm sure the Mustang input was available using Windows drivers, when I was still trying to solve the noise problem I demoed several programs and Mustang USB was available in all of them.

I use an old DAW that I've had for years called Cool Edit Pro, it has a 128 track recorder and doesn't even support ASIO, you just have to figure out the amount of latency between playback and record then plug it into the recording options and you're set. I would think that other programs allow you to set the latency compensation manually also.


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:07 am
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@lknowlin.... no. I can't get it to work with windows realtek or asio4all and now i tried to download the fender univesal and I get no sound in abelton at all. so I am missing something bigtime. If its this complicated I don't have time to mess with it. I'm a busy guy. Have other things I need to do.
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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:38 am
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Hey CHIPSHOT0701,

I remember that I had bit of a problem to get playback from Ableton 8 lite but I don't remember what setting I found to make it work, that's one of the reasons I went back to Cool Edit. You may want to try Audacity, it's free and fairly easy to use. It doesn't support asio but will work with the Mustang USB input.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/


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Post subject: Re: Asio4all vs. Fender Asio drivers
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:08 pm
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Hi Guys,

It sounds like some of you are certainly experiencing some issues with getting the ASIO driver set up. I will put together a check list of common troubleshooting steps and post it here tomorrow. Although ASIO is the professional standard driver for the Windows platform, there can be a few issues that can occur. I will include the main conflicts that we see come up here. Thanks.

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