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Post subject: Strange sound when changing presets
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:46 am
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Hi, I finally received my Mustang V head after 2 long weeks of waiting! I noticed something weird when changing presets on the amp. Whenever I change a preset on the amp, there is a strange "squish" or "boing" sound. Is it normal, is there something I can do to get rid of this. This is really annoying in a song in which I switch from clean to distortion.

EDIT: I'm at firmware 1.9

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Post subject: Re: Strange sound when changing presets
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:03 am
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It's normal. For some, it's the Mustang's Achilles' heel when playing live. I think it's caused by the amp's CPU "catching up" to change all the parameters for the newly selected preset. I've had a theory that the amp models in the Mustangs are really pushing the CPU and is part of the reason why we can't have certain combinations of effects simultaneously. For example, we can't use Overdrive and Compression at the same time. I can happily live with it though because the Mustang's models sound so good and the price is simply unbeatable.


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Post subject: Re: Strange sound when changing presets
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:18 am
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Orcatraz wrote:
It's normal. For some, it's the Mustang's Achilles' heel when playing live. I think it's caused by the amp's CPU "catching up" to change all the parameters for the newly selected preset. I've had a theory that the amp models in the Mustangs are really pushing the CPU and is part of the reason why we can't have certain combinations of effects simultaneously. For example, we can't use Overdrive and Compression at the same time. I can happily live with it though because the Mustangs models sound so good and the price is simply unbeatable.


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Thanks for the answer. That's what I was affraid of. I owned a Line 6 before there was always a kind of space sound while switching presets. I was hoping to not experiment that kind of behavior in the Mustang. I will keep my finger crossed for this problem to be software fixable in a near future.
I really love my M5 and I think I will live with it. The sound coming from this amp has nothing to do with my old Spider.


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Post subject: Re: Strange sound when changing presets
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:29 am
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Man, I don't know how they could possibly get around the limitations of the CPU without reducing the detail involved in the amp modeling. That would be a very very bad thing to do in my opinion. The only real solution is a more powerful CPU in a future model. Lots of us are hoping for a "Pro" model with better overall build quality and a more powerful CPU.

I was kind of hoping that the M-Floor would not have this preset changing issue but that didn't happen. It also has a fixed effects loop. :(

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Post subject: Re: Strange sound when changing presets
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:43 am
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It's sad then. So the best thing would be to rely on our old good pedals...

I didn't have the chance to try it in a loud situation. Is the problem worse while the amp's cranked up?


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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:02 pm
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bigdee wrote:
It's sad then. So the best thing would be to rely on our old good pedals...

I didn't have the chance to try it in a loud situation. Is the problem worse while the amp's cranked up?


It stands to reason that it would be more noticeable in loud situations. I don't think it's necessarily sad, it's just the reality imposed by Mustang's price point. We might have a gripe if the Mustangs started at $400 and up but we're talking about amps that start at $100. I think part of the problem is that people who are willing to spend more money on an amp look to tube amps and for whom modeling amps and such technology in general have a less than stellar perceived reputation. Deserved or not.

I think Fender is looking at the Mustangs as a proving ground for high quality modeling tech so they had to start at the low end. It might be way more costly and risky to start at the high end. It's easier to get customers to take a chance on something new if the price is low enough.

For me the bottom line is that Fender gets the best sound for vintage style tones and response than anyone else within a $100 - $600 modeling amp/floor board bracket. Roland is a somewhat close second and makes up for what it lacks with absolute routing flexibility and tonal control options - untouchable in that respect. Line 6 is a very distant third when it comes to vintage tones and especially vintage response/feel. They haven't the slightest when it comes to that.


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